>spend YEARS weight lifting and roiding out
>lose all your gains in a few days
lol body building is truly a meme. Cardiochads are truly the masterrace.
Spend YEARS weight lifting and roiding out
Joseph Diaz
Hudson Green
i thought it was supposed to be like a month
Alexander Reed
It wasnt a few days its was more like months you absolute goober
Jeremiah Long
i can't believe how cool and strong women are, bros
Dylan Young
why didn't she or that scrawny little fuck die of dehydration and starvation?
Joseph Thompson
>isn't an unrealistic mass of muscle
>still a badass
Yep, for me, it's Ellie
Christopher Adams
M8 she lost mass over time, not when they crucified her. She was crucified for like a few days at that point.
Look at the other slaves. They're emaciated too.
I think the whole concept of using slaves to pick tomatoes in the post apocalypse is retarded. I mean, you have to feed them still and it seems like a waste if you aren't picking a cash crop. But that's how they portray it in game.
Wyatt Sanchez
She gets captured, held for months, tries to escape and gets put on the pillars left to die which was a few days. A bit fucking convenient for Ellie to arrive in the time she did.
Jayden Morgan
It was months bro, but you are right. Cardio > Weight lifting.
Alexander Clark
She was only crucified for a few days, but she'd been in captivity for months.
Nathan Reyes
CUTE
Asher Price
You'd fucking die if you didn't drink water in less then a week.
The whole thing is fucking retarded user and so are you for defending.
Zachary Smith
What if it's not actually Abby and Ellie spares her because she realizes she's trying to kill a different person?
Jeremiah Sanchez
Based and cutepilled
Anthony Thompson
please do not discuss shit trash videogames.
ok?
Juan Lopez
You don't lose your gains that fast. I was into weightlifting a few years ago, and got pretty big. But a back injury cause me to have to stop. I lost my gains in about 1 month.
Charles Ross
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Fuck you
Justin Morales
>I lost my gains in about 1 month
Let me tell you how i know you lifted for week then never touched bar again.
Charles Baker
She wasn't on the crucifix for months moron.
Ryan Thompson
>You don't lose your gains that fast.
Months of working in some bullshit fields, torture and borderline starvation? lol Zig Forumstards start crying if they miss a day.
Josiah Hill
We aren't, seethe
Ayden Smith
I genuinely don't understand what Zig Forumslets find so attractive. Two years ago I would lift boxes all day for eight hours at a warehouse for a summer job and it was certainly not pleasant. Where do Zig Forumslets get this ridiculous idea that physical exercise is pleasurable?
Jordan Jackson
The entire crux of the story relies on the assumption that the fireflies could make a vaccine. They fucking couldn't. And Joel's not dumb enough to believe in bullshit ideals. So when the whole story and character interaction and development is based on
>dude trust me
It falls apart and has no impact. Funny enough, Abby was infinitely more interesting than Ellie and her bullshit, even if Abby wasn't likable. Last of Us fans need to start considering the bones of the story and no their epic feels.
Fat Geralt was more interesting than Ellie and Abby anyway.
Christopher Clark
it's an addiction to pain , like sadomasochism.
Eli Lopez
Why did he have tu turn her into a lesbian cuckhold, bros, its not fair.
Sebastian Lee
>8 hours
>boxes
Found your problem.
Nolan Gomez
>The entire crux of the story relies on the assumption that the fireflies could make a vaccine.
Not really. Ellie would have made the choice to go ahead with the surgery whether the chance of it succeeding was 1% or 100%.
Adam Ortiz
>he thinks identifying plot holes is good 'criticism' and can't suspend his disbelief
Everyone in-game - all the Fireflies, Joel - fully believe in the possibility of a vaccine. It's fiction. Just buy into it, you fucking retard.
He made her gay back in 2014. Lesbians are based anyway. Seethe
Jacob Nguyen
Nice pits
Nolan Carter
Yes, and THAT'S precisely why the ending of the first game was so impactful. Not because Joel believed in fairy tales, but because he knew Ellie would sacrifice herself and he needed her more than he needed anything. Making the vaccine a sure shot is retarded
>Everyone in-game - all the Fireflies, Joel - fully believe in the possibility of a vaccine. It's fiction. Just buy into it, you fucking retard.
No I will not. It's piss poor storytelling when you can't back anything up and have character act and think and do and say things that they wouldn't. Fuck your feels. Approach the story and everything in it practically or fuck off.
Jack Hughes
>Making the vaccine a sure shot is retarded
The second game doesn't do this though.
Jeremiah Foster
>perfect chance for revenge
>ABBI-SAN, WE MUSTO HAVU AN HONORABURU DUERU!!!
Hunter Russell
How not?
Kayden Perry
If Joel didn't believe making a vaccine was a sure shot in the first game, why did he drag Ellie all the way from Boston to Salt Lake City?
Christopher Lopez
Ellie was a big fan of Ghost of Tsushima
Jayden Torres
Is she the ultimate cuckquean?
Ellie:
-doesn't become the vaccine she was destined to be
-had her gay black gf killed
-had her "mom" turned into a zomboid
-had her dad clubbed to death - rob dougan right in front of her, cucked from a father figure
-gifted with a shitty singing voice
-loses all of her friends because she's unlikable
-gets LITERALLY cucked and raises another man's kid
-THEN the babby momma leaves her
-can't even kill an emaciated shetwink who hadn't eaten in a week who famously had anal sex on screen
-loses two fingers to the shetwink that killed her dad in front of her, proving that she is forever the GAMMA female, sub-beta, sub-omega.
-too stupid to learn how to play guitar left handed (literally the only thing she has left, except a noose in the woods)
Ellie is BORN to be cucked.
Jackson Perry
based
Sebastian Foster
Because that's what she needed and he needed her. How do you not get this? Joel believing in cure means he suddenly dropped his misanthropy. And yes, the writing in the first is flawed but the sequel just builds on flaws.
Nathan Fisher
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Thomas Williams
lesbians get sleeve tattoos to pretend they have arm hair
Aiden Rogers
It's scary to think that such a little cutie is capable of brutally murdering people in a plethora of vicious manners
Nathan Taylor
What do you mean? It's not like we ever get independent confirmation that the surgery would have succeeded. The fireflies (Abby's dad) all believe it'll work - but this was true in the first game as well.
Joel doesn't confirm that the vaccine would have worked either. Where do you think the second game erased the ambiguity?
Jeremiah Roberts
Luke Foster
That's what happens when you're left on a pole to starve to death. The lack of water should have killed them.
Brandon Thomas
He was doing it for the guns at first then Tess gets bit and he was doing it for her then he started to care for Ellie. Simple. He never actually gave a shit about the vaccine.
Xavier White
The cure would have been not possible or at best ineffectual. And the Fireflies were pieces of shit and opportunistic. How many gangs did Joel encounter when he was becoming a murder machine? Why would he treat the Fireflies any different? He may believe in some kind of immunity but there's no reason for him to trust the Firefly claims. ESPECIALLLY when they are about to kill Ellie and they escort him out. Joel believing in a cure is fucking stupid and setting up Dr. Who as some wonderful saint is an asspull. It's shitty storytelling that wants your claps and feels
Levi Morgan
Based
God I wish that was me
It's pretty hot desu. I wonder how she'd murder me
Ellie got her sleeve tattoo to cover up her bite
Nathaniel Garcia
You see a cute animal that tries hard to look intimidating to scare you off but just looks cuter? That's like what Ellie is
Anthony Sullivan
Did you reply to the wrong person? How is any of this relevant?
Joel doesn't say he believed the surgery would work in the second game.
Alexander Stewart
Zig Forums is down the right, friend
Julian Nguyen
most of the arguments against the game are bad faith claims that conflate plot holes (lazy writing) with plot contrivance (essential part of writing).
Xavier Bailey
it would genuinely have been a more interesting, more impactful story having tyrannical fireflies waving a vaccine over everyones head as they took over America.
Jonathan Smith
Play the game you fucking retard. It was MONTHS, and they were in a cell until just recently when they were left to die by the shore as punishment for trying to escape.
Aaron Thomas
>the chad Ellie cardiobunny
>the virgin Abby gymcel
John Jones
You'll lose your cardiovascular fitness very rapidly from inactivity as well so don't see your point
Brody Lewis
Hot murder girl
Mason Ward
If it's not a sure shot than what does it matter? Why does Ellie spend so much time being a cunt when Joel could have just said "The cure was bullshit. If it was me on that table, what would you have done? Stop believing in nonsense." Joel was paranoid and practical. Reflect that.