This is the most disappointing and controversial naughty dog game ever

dumb nigger

>replying to such obvious bait

J&D was better
GTA3 was better
Every R&C game was better

Jak II should have stuck to a solid formula rather than abandoning the things that made it good by chasing the clout of better games.

seething

COMIN THROUGH
ME AND MY CREW

It's still better than anything they've made in their post mascot games era.

Jak 2 was such a fuckin magical game to play as a kid. It was literally the dream game.

TLoU 2 is kinda similar - only for adults this time.

They're not comparable in any way

Use the vulcan properly i.e. stop wasting time juggling guards that are already dead

The only J&D game I've played is Daxter, which is pretty good. I guess I should finally go play the original.

most of the arguments i see criticizing this game end up just being "too hard!!!" "too edgy!!!" "it ripoffs everything!!!" which are just idiotic, there are some criticisms most jak2 fans would agree with, like driving around the city getting monotonous eventually (again most seem to complain about the driving being too hard/"clunky" though) but i don't understand people who are eternally mad at jak 2 for having a darker world & atmosphere compared to j&d. and yes there is less platforming compared to j&d, but again morons pretend there's literally no platforming in jak2 and it's only racing and shooting for the whole game

Jak II was kino. I loved Jak and Daxter don't get me wrong but going into Jak II for the first time was a magical experience due to how different everything was. I was super invested. Also the gameplay was 1000 times better. I don't remember much about Jak III though or whether or not I liked it more. The fact I remember so little probably means I didn't.

there's nothing wrong with beeing a ripoff, you just have to be good at it
J&D wasn't original, it was a carbon copy of N64 collectathons that came before it. But it was well designed so it didn't matter.
Jak II had shit driving, shooting that paled in comparison to its contemporaries, and a filler of an "open world". The platforming sections were decent but there weren't as many.

so nostalgia. jak 2 is shit, worst in the series. jak 1 is actually good.

That's not Crash 2

Jak II was bad but Jak 3 was much worse. All of Jak II's problems were present in Jak 3 to an even greater extent.
If you think that Jak II is the worst, you're probably a shitter and just think Jak 3 is better because it's babby mode.

>but i don't understand people who are eternally mad at jak 2 for having a darker world & atmosphere compared to j&d.
Because the genre shift doesn't fit into the world at all. Nothing in Jak 2 looks like it would ever be in J&D, Jak has a massive tonal shift out of nowhere and treats both Daxter and Kiera like shit, the entire first game was about as unassuming and both whimsical and magical to turn into this shitheap, and so on. It's an awful tonal shift.

Also, since you want an answer, here you go.
>World feels like shit to explore that's both small and far too big.
>Cars handle like you're ice skating but you're expected to drive them at full speed.
>If you are detected for any reason(Usually because your car ever so lightly nicks a guard's car) you will now have a permanent wanted level until you die or you zone out because guards know where you are 24/7 and spawn into your hiding spots.
>Guns all handle like absolute shit when R&C1 should have shown them why you don't do it like that considering Insomniac was their friendly rival.
>Races aren't fun in any way and have ridiculously strict time limits with rubberbanding AI.
>Platforming almost doesn't exist and when it does it's either handling like shit or super short.
>Platforming in general handles levels nothing like J&D did and there's barely even any secrets.
>That platforming section where you run towards the camera above insta-kill pits as you run away from a boss and if you die you reset all the way back to the escort section.
>The entire mech section.
>The entire turret section.
>Pisses away any goodwill the first game gained by throwing everything it did down the drain.
I have never been more pissed at a sequel in my life. It was an awful game filled with awful characters, an asshat MC, a genre shift that feels forced to meet trends, a loss of any joy in the actual platforming, and forced gun mechanics that were already outdated when they were added.

shooting was lackluster compared to R&C, yes, at close range you go for kicks and uppercuts though just like in J&D. was jak2 actually marketed as an open world game? i always considered haven city to just be a hub, not meant as an "open world" map. only problem i had with driving was vehicle damage feeling inconsistent, sometimes the slightest touch could blow up your zoomer. honestly the reason why jak2 is my favorite of the series is the atmosphere, music, sound effects & aesthetic of the world/level design. it all feels very unique even to this day

this but unironically.

Neil Druckmann wishes he could write a script half as good as Jak 2's
youtu.be/6RmsZ9vq-fM?t=1159

>World feels like shit to explore that's both small and far too big.
explain
>Cars handle like you're ice skating but you're expected to drive them at full speed.
i never found the driving in this game anywhere near as frustrating as it seems to be for most of the people who played jak2, so i guess my opinion is irrelevant then, still think it's a matter of git gud though
>If you are detected for any reason(Usually because your car ever so lightly nicks a guard's car) you will now have a permanent wanted level until you die or you zone out because guards know where you are 24/7 and spawn into your hiding spots.
i've crashed into hellcats without getting any alerts, and i don't remember alerts being permanent unless you're just staying in the same place killing every guard in sight
>Guns all handle like absolute shit when R&C1 should have shown them why you don't do it like that considering Insomniac was their friendly rival.
true, although the melee from j&d is still there and used most of the time against basic critters
>Races aren't fun in any way and have ridiculously strict time limits with rubberbanding AI.
seems to be a personal issue again, most of the races were alright to me. although i agree the AI rubberbands a shit-ton
>Platforming almost doesn't exist and when it does it's either handling like shit or super short.
false
>Platforming in general handles levels nothing like J&D did and there's barely even any secrets.
false
>That platforming section where you run towards the camera above insta-kill pits as you run away from a boss and if you die you reset all the way back to the escort section.
those were a breeze, though?
>The entire mech section.
fuck, i forgot about that. the mech shit was legitimately terrible indeed
>The entire turret section.
these were just a breeze though, unless you were doing THAT one part on heroic
>It betrayed the original game's fanbase
I'll gladly take jak2's god tier atmosphere over another collectathon ;o)

Jesus, neither of them were good.