Better than Mario Odyssey

Isn't 3D Land considered the best one? 3D World is party shit...

Is it correct to say Odyssey has more soul yet isn't nearly as good as 3D World?

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Both are complete shit.

no, soul is imaginary

The concept art had soul the actual game has none

You want to know why this game was shit and why it didn't help the wii u in sales? Because it was a glorified 3DS game. People want a true mario experience like Odyssey for the wii u but instead they got this bullshit.

Elder god tier:
Mario Galaxy
God tier:
Mario Galaxy 2, Mario Odyssey
Great tier:
Mario 64
Good but flawed:
Mario Sunshine, Mario 3D World

Odyssey is boring as hell, all of the "sandbox" Marios are boring except 64 which was novel and had good controls

The more linear obstacle course style 3D Marios like 3DW and Galaxy 2 are way more fun

This.

how is odyssey not "good but flawed"? I bet you didn't 100% it. nobody did, because it's insanely repetitive and poorly designed to do so

Galaxies are gobsmackingly overrated, 3D Land sucks gigantic ass, haven't played World for obvious reasons, Odyssey and 64 are great, heard way too many negative things about Sunshine to try it out. Cue gigachad pic.

>no triple jump
>8 direction movement
Why even bother

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3D world has 8 directional movement? Well there’s my reason not to play it.

It's true

I liked it back then, but looking back now those games are extremely generic and not original in the slightest. Just play Galaxy 1 and 2 if you want a good Mario platformer.

>generic
if the level design is good, who cares?

mario odyssey is "unique" but the levels are forgettable and the moons are boring

Yeah such a shame they designed the game around full 360 movement and triple jumping over everything only to remove that at the last minute

Little Timmy has gotta play with the wiimote apparently, and it would even be fine if it was still possible to use analog controls on other pads. The dumbed down movement mechanics really diminished the experience overall

>how is odyssey not "good but flawed"? I bet you didn't 100% it. nobody did, because it's insanely repetitive and poorly designed to do so
What a stupid criteria to judge a game on. I guess BotW was shit too, since collecting all the korok seeds is boring.

Are there any other 3D platformers like it?

I used to think it was impossible for a Mario game to play like shit until 3D world happened.
Why is it so fucking floaty, why is Mario's moveset so gimped, why do you always have to run in a circle to build up speed?

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Forgettable? Well, i guess that is very subjective.
For me each level felt really unique and they did a good job in making every kingdom feels very distinct from the others, except for Water Kingdom and Ice Kingdom, maybe.

I remembered when Zig Forums seethed so hard over this not being "muh reel 3d mayro" back in the e3 2013 reveal that even the mods had to tell you faggots to calm the fuck down

i agree. 3d world is a great game but it was released at the wrong time. the wii u needed a killer app and 3d world seems slight compared to the big "open world" mario games. on top of that the previous 3 3d mario games were progressively moving away from the "open world" style. when 3d world came out people were craving a game more like Odyssey.