So i played the original doom since everyone likes to pretend its better than "nudoom" for its map desing

So i played the original doom since everyone likes to pretend its better than "nudoom" for its map desing.
And i must say, it sucked, mazes are just not fun.
Theres ironically more downtime in looking for keycards and looking where youre supposed to go next than the so hated platforming sections of Eternal.
Sorry boomers, but Eternal is just better in every way from the shooting to the map design, its a literal successor.

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doom wasn't perfect but you can fix its issues, both technical and from design, while still maintaining core elements and add new enemies, weapons and mechanics without staying too far from the core gameplay
it was, after all, an upgrade to wolfenstein 3d, from the engine to the game design
new doom on the other hand is like a house of cards in regards to its design
you think the rpg skill trees or lazy armor system suck but the game could be made worse by changing it
it's a game meant to be its own direction, not an "upgrade" or even "downgrade" of doom
it's technically a spin-off, which could also apply to doom 3
a true modern follow up to doom would exist in the form of a big, even if bloated fan mod or something made in a smaller scale than that of an aaa game
the minute enemies have to spawn in a room instead of being preplaced is why you can't replicate classic doom in a modern aaa game
this makes doom mods/wads special in a sense they feel like sequels and spin offs from an alternate timeline, where id kept milking doom, for better or worse
some fanmade content even tries to respect the classic art style and not just because it's pixel art

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>mazes aren't fun
>meanwhile level design that just leads to kill arenas with no actual innovation is somehow isn't the same thing

>mazes are not fun
yeah when you're retarded they're pretty gosh darn hard

arenas are fun because its just more combat, mazes are moments where youre just walking around aimlessly and not having fun.
big difference

just play some WADs d00d

Doom 2 is lot better than Doom newfag. Do your job right and play all IWADS until you finish Plutonia

How dumb you must be to think these maps are "mazes"? Seriously, you must be completely retarded to get lost on iwad levels.

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Doom doesn't have "mazes" dumbass, just interconnected areas that even a chimp can navigate. Only thing that resamble mazes are that one area on E1M4 and another on E3M7.

It's not a game problem if you are brain damaged.

mazes? theres a map you retard

navigating nu-doom is a much bigger pain in the ass due to lack of visual clarity and shit lighting

Protip: You are just dumb OP

>mazes are just not fun
>mazes

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what mazes? are you retarded? You literally have a map.

>zoomers are too retarded to navigate Doom
I'd hate to seem them play dungeon crawlers

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>Doom doesn't have "mazes" dumbass

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>He got lost on E2M5

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>mazes
bait or you're posting about a game you didn't play

You uncover these area's one by one and they are easy to navigate. Your brainpower must be in the negatives if you seriously get lost in Doom

i was just playing doom 2016 and i got lost way more than the originals. well maybe "lost" isnt the right word, so much and finding it hard to tell exactly where to go next. everything kind of just blends into each other.

Aye, same. Not a lot but I did miss the location of one of those grabby climby walls once or twice with how busy the screen looked and how it blended in.

Are you kidding right?

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Yea but I grew up with Doom and played it when I was 9 so it's better.

I weep for future generations.

2 is better

So do I pick up Ultimate Doom and Doom II plus Final?

Just pirate them. Nobody involved with the development of those games is seeing a dime these days.

nuDoom does a good job with enemy and weapon design. though the map design has a lot to be desired. zoomers compare it to the worst out there like cod to make it look better than it is.

piracy is recommended since you're going to need a source port to run the iwads anyways unless you like fucking dosbox

It is better. I don't have any nostalgia for classic doom (I'm a zoomer) but it's pretty easy to recognize that.

Yep. Final Doom, especially Plutonia is the peak in terms of gameplay (at least for the commercial wads). After that you can go to custom wads as well.

i got lost so badly in the bfg room in 2016 that i never ended up beating the game before selling my ps4. i have a literal baby brain and yet i have no problems navigating in the original doom games. you can have the map open while you walk around.

What is iwad and wad?


But what if I like the feel of owning a game?

Didn't grow up with these games either, key hunting can seriously slow down the game. There were a few levels in Doom 2 that were really bad about this.

i mean, cod has better map design than nu-doom, i would say. nu-doom's maps are shit