UNDERTALE's "So Sorry" creator speaks about having to "fight" for two years

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>How I was treated by the creators still stings and has left me with complicated and stressful feelings to what is otherwise my favourite pair of games thus far.

>I don’t think they’re bad people (...), but I had to fight for two years to have an appearance that was reshaped, cut down and hidden cos I’m the wrong kind of monster for a game about compassion.

>I had to fight all the way up to release and even then wasn’t given a name in the design credits like the others were. That came much later, possibly on the switch release as well as conditions that meant you had to backtrack after muffet even if you had the unlock conditions set

>I was told it was for my own good as though I don’t know what’s good for me. I’m queer, I’m autistic, I’m fat and draw fat cartoons, I’ve been bullied my whole life. I just wanted to be part of something I cared about for once. And that wasn’t allowed to be nice.

>If people are fine with Alphys, who has a lot of similar traits to me, they can be fine with me. Anything else admits a lack of sincerity.

Reminder that this character has been featured in various fetish artwork, involving expansion, vore, being sliced apart, dissolved, and other things. Toby, foreseeing the harassment (as well as probably just not wanting to have fetish fuel be inserted into his game), claimed that he "offered him a refund and asked him if he wanted to change his character to a different one". Samael preferred to "fight for two years" instead.

Yes, he was very much "the wrong kind of monster for a game about compassion".

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who are you talking to? who cares?

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is there ANYONE who sympathises for this autistic furry trying to put his fetish into a random game who aren't also autistic furries?

>Dragon Cartoonist. Anxious Autistic. He/They/She, Genderqueer, Pan-Pan-Polyam, Socialist. May not be able to respond, highly shy, easily overwhelmed.
Do people really?

I will never play this game

>Put my fetish bait character into your game
No dude wtf
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>socialist
why is every autist weirdo a socialist/communist?

Nobody, and I mean literally nobody, cares
>but what about the guy that wrote it
He's not a person

YOU NIGGA

I'm not the kind of guy to shit on someone who legitimately wants to be part of something like he does, but at the same time you need to be self aware at how much of a creepy fuck you are being. Toby made almost the right call. The completely right call would have been refunding the money regardless of whether the guy wanted it refunded or not and refusing to take it again. There's no reason to shit on the guy since his life is already some kind of bizarro hell mess, but he doesn't need to be pushing this onto other people.

What is this? Is he trying to cancel Toby?

I feel kinda bad for him. Not because of what happened to his OC in the game - because really, thank GOD Toby had the common sense not to put this shit in the game in a significant way - but because his autism levels are clearly off the chart.

What is this guy's relation to undertale? Can I get the one sentence version of the story, this sounds incredibly boring

They already worked this out like 2 years ago and he's bringing it up again. It was already obvious, but he's mentally ill. Everyone should ignore him, like Toby definitely will be.

Seconding.

>This faggot is still butthurt
It was a gross fetish character that Toby didn't find out until it was too late.Toby literally offered him a full refund and he refused. Fuck this mentally ill faggot

The guy paid money to put his fetish OC in Undertale, Toby made it a secret character you can only see on one specific day in the year

He's still bitching huh?

Kickstarter backer who payed to have his OC put in. The character was made extremely hard to encounter because it's a blatant furry fetish character that doesn't fit with the game so the developer wanted to "hide" him.

Wasn't there another funded OC who became much popular?

Undertale had a kickstarter, there were bonuses for donators that let them put a character into the game; this autistic furry donated enough, but the maker of Undertale hid him away in an extremely difficult to find hidden location to technically live up to his obligations

Short version: He paid the underatle dev $1000 to put his fat fetishism OC in the game and then the dev put it but you have to do a bunch of obscenely specific things to even find the character and then the character doesn't even affect the game in any way

Degenerates who take their fetishes this seriously need to be gassed a thousand times over.

Why do these people have the kind of money to do this shit? Is it trust funds or am I a tax payer paying for this bullshit?

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I feel bad for the guy but the failure to understand why the character was 'excluded' and his attempt at appealing via the message of the game without comprehending why a fetish character would perhaps compromise or overshadow that message makes me frustrated.

dont care. fat furry bloat fetishists dont deserve nice things

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The retard chose this path.
He actively chose this path and now he's surprised that that choice had consequences.
Guess he didnt play the game because thats literally one of the core fucking messages of the game.
Fuck this self entitled jackass and fuck OP for bringing this up.

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Muffet was a KS insert. She wasn't an existing character though, the backer made her specifically for undertale.

Just to mention something that others did not: The furry designed the attacks around his fetishes for the fursona.

disability checks OR sometimes autistic people become engineers/mathematicians and make money that way.

>this sounds incredibly boring
it is, which is why so many words can be typed by OP to communicate almost nothing intelligible

Typical victim mentality. Be a creepy furry, inject your fursona into a game and feel like other people who don't want fetishes in their game wronged YOU.

I still find it funny that he’s still in the game but is near nigh impossible to ever encounter by regular players.

For those who don't know about what's going on

Basically this dude got Toby to put his OC in Undertale as a character somehow (not sure on the specifics). But after he agreed to put him in Toby found out it was a inflation fetish character. So he basically hid him and cut out a lot of stuff to make it as hard as possible to find.

This is why you don't associate with leftoids.

who the fuck needs therapy for social anxiety and depression when you can just look at people this absolutely pathetic

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I don't even understand what he's talking about. Give me a tldr

Muffet is also one of the more memorable characters in UT too.

nigga look at the site YOU ARE ON

You can't give these type of people attention, it just gives them more leverage to play the victim

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>fat fuck's entire twitter feed is just him venting publicly to the void
why the fuck do people do this

>I’m queer, I’m autistic, I’m fat and draw fat cartoons
at least he admit it

>he's called so sorry because toby didn't want him!
fucking based.

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He had his fucking chance , he pressured toby to implement his self insert fetish shit in the game , despite toby begging him not to do it by trying to repeal the 1k given to him by this sick fuck. He reaped what he fucking sowed

I just feel like all these degen furries that get ten million commissions from artists with the sicked shit are paying exorbitant amounts of money far too often. Is there an overlap of furries and Jews with being disproportionately wealthy or just poor money management?

why did you make this thread

>alphys is similar to me
How does a bisexual anime science nerd compared to a butter dragon with inflation/vore powers?

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I'm very glad the millions upon millions of children that latched onto Undertale weren't most likely no exposed to this character.
Thank you, Toby.

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Define "people"

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That's funny because in the months after Undertale came out he said he was completely fine with how his kickstarter character was handled and then proceeded to make huge massive bank off of it all by doing a bunch of pricey Undertale furry commissions. This just seems like him having a salty runback now that the well is starting to dry up for him and he has to find some way to keep the money coming in.

yeah he's called so sorry literally because toby is apologizing you have to see that thing

I wonder did they consider him a requirement for the genocide run at one point but decided against it

nobody cares faggot
burn your computer and then hang yourself

He should've just refunded him and refused to put it in anyways.

>If people are fine with Alphys
fuck alphys worst character in the game can't even kill the dumb cunt best you can get is an implied suicide

Toby is based.

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What do normal people spend money on?
Their family? Autist furries don't have families. Nice cars and houses? Autist furries are happy living in a filthy single room apartment and driving their broken down old piece of shit with trash bags taped over the broken windows. Going to bars? Autistic furries just get drunk at home.
It's not that furries have a lot of money, it's that they live super cheap. Motherfuckers eat beans and top ramen for every meal. Then, they use their savings to buy fur suits and thousands of dollars of commissions of their OC

I see nothing wrong with what Tony did.

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paid to include the character in OPs pic in Undertale.
Previously commissioned various fetish art of the same character.
Toby found out and offered a full refund, declined.
Included in the game only by technicality in the end, in an obscure way that you'd only find the character if you were actively looking for them.
OP is now linking a series of tweets from that guy who owns the character demonstrating he still doesn't understand why Toby didn't want him in the game.

His name is Samael Butterdragon. Can't make this up.

If his retarded fetish character wasn't an easter egg he would have gotten bullied so much harder.

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It's way too specific to be able to even find him, if he was a mandatory part of a genocide run it would ruin the game because people wouldn't be able to complete the run.

He's called so sorry so the kids who play the game can't Google his name and find all the weird porn.

The sad thing is that these people often aren‘t wealthy. They just blow what little money they have on fetishized garbage. Often to the detriment of others.
This fat fuck wants me too feel bad for him but I just feel sorry for Toby for having to deal with this shit.

>I just wanted to be part of something I cared about for once. And that wasn’t allowed to be nice.
You literally got your character in the game and still complained because it wasn't front and center to display your weird fetish with. I'm always baffled that people like this actually exist, how the fuck are furries even real?

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>he/they/she
what the actual fuck

>complains about getting bullied for his fat character that was hidden away to reduce the amount of bullying he would get

aka a insecure bitch

>google any other undertale character's name
>find weird porn

almost as if its because its obvious how much better the other OC insert was treated

if muffet didnt get as popular as she did maybe he wouldnt have stirred as much

Where the fuck do furries get so much money

>I’ve been bullied my whole life.
Thank god

>You missed the chance to get your OC to be in undertale and go down in gaming history

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No I mean chara just happen to stumble upon him while he doesn’t know about their murderous vendetta

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swear to god, i am NEVER letting ANYONE put their OC in my fucking game.

the core difference here is that Muffet is actually a good and interesting character design

post so sorry's butt

this is when backer character things are fine, if any indie dev wants to do it (terrible idea either way) they should force this

yeah this dude is fucked up in the head.
you don't pay someone to include your self-insert fetish character in a kids game.
toby offered a full refund but the guy refused and deserves all the shame he is getting.

This, remember what happened to the Night in the Woods guy. Zoe Quinn got upset because people weren't giving her anymore attention now that gamergate is over so she cried fake rape on the guy until she was able to convince even his own family that she was raped by him. Now that guy killed himself and Zoe Quinn used his suicide as a temporary stepping stool for herself to once again gain the spotlight as an advocate against depression and suicide until the five minutes of fame were up and she's back to looking for another scapegoat to throw under the bus.

Well in Muffet's defence she's actually a good character and not ugly-looking, chubby furry fetish garbage

KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

It rhymes

>cos I'm the wrong kind of monster for a game about compassion
Do furfags really see themselves as their fursona?

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Autism. Unironically.

>whore yourself (see: kikestarter)
>but seems you're too good for furry OCs
Is like one of these BLACKED "actress" thinking they're still human.

never did i thought i see the day toby actually coming out to be against fur faggotry but this is a blessed

It helps that muffet was incorporated to the spider bake sale side story, nice design, fun battle, had and great music.

>put your weird fetish character in the game and then refuse to have it refunded because toby knew it was hot garbage
>still seething about something you could have easily avoided
The amount of autism required to come to this conclusion is so far off the richter scale I'm having a hard time believing he's not just doing this for attention

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Well, he tried.

>He/They/She
Do the people who are really into gender labels get annoyed at people who go by three conflicting labels? That just seems it goes against the point to me.

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I get what you mean but that would also mean putting this god-awful character in the spotlight of the game and nobody should have to suffer through that

It's like that one "sweaty with arousal" comic. There are just some ultra repobates out there.

yes they're mentally ill enough.

Fats are subhuman and deserve all the hate they get.
There is no excuse to be fat.

>I’m queer, I’m autistic, I’m fat and draw fat cartoons,
Do these people not fucking realize that talking about your fetishes so openly makes you look really depraved and weird? I can't fucking grasp it. I'm an autist myself, but even I have the tact to not go "hey I'm [name] and I jerk off to feet and futas fucking traps" outside of anonymous places. It's especially bad when you define your whole online presence by that. Good god, imagine that. Imagine labeling yourself based on how you get your rocks off. Fucking bewildering.

imagine thinking anyone here isn't an even bigger freak

i was just jacking off to a woman getting vored by dinosaur nipples with shit excreting from their pores. an image that i found on this site, on not even a NSFW board

Fuck you

did you forget where you are? how many faggots in that same category are trads/fash, autism only exists on the fringes

the fuck would have been this fat fuck's side story? fishing him out of the fry fats at the burger joint to feed him to an even bigger, gayer butt dragon OC?

maybe next time he shouldn't design a character that's a grotesque amalgamation of his fetishes. god damn diaper wearing fat dragon

Oh.

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Toby only asked for 5k on kickstarter, he is like a porno actress who starred in just one film.

>pan-pan polyam

What now?

he should eat a bullet

Don't you know user? Gender is just a social construct, which is why all of your belongings will be burned if you refer to someone by their incorrect pronouns.

all they know is their freakish fetishes online and live in the same group of degenerates who celebrate it, turns out echo chambers allow people to open their mental issues out to the public and Scream like children when normal people see them acting like giant fucking degenerates and call them out on it.

my sexual identity is Ski-bi dibby dib yo da dub dub
Yo da dub dub
Ski-bi dibby dib yo da dub dub
Yo da dub dub
(I'm the Scatman)

FPBP. Fuck off OP why give this faggot attention?