Now that the dust has settled, we can all agree the hate was overblown...

No. Story is stupid. Ellie Kills everyone besides the soul person responsible for her fake fathers death. It's stupid.
Abbey kills a man named Joel because his name is Joel. Doesn't remotely question if it's the right one. Goes on to try and live a guilt free life. Shitty writting.
Transexuals in the post apocalypse. Poorly written and actualized characters. Abby being the worst for having a build impossible for her living conditions.
Forced to play as Abby while the game badly attempts to make you sympathize with a murder.

Top that off with mediocre gameplay from the first game and no MP and you got one hell of a piece of shit.

It wasn't a good game though.
It had the same gameplay but now no Multiplayer.
It was a worse game than the first one.

What Zelda game does this arguement even attain to? Skyward Sword?

>Naughty Dog
>good combat

Real question, is it actually good or good for Naughty Dog? People hype Uncharted 2 as a GOAT but the gunplay in all the Uncharteds was ass. TLoU gameplay was serviceable, but nothing to write home about.

What Story? I never realized the Last of them/they 2 had a story, all I saw was a Tranny killing everything and trying WAY too hard to look cool and jewish stuff.

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100%. I thought the same thing when this was first announced and TLoU2 did nothing to change my opinion on that.

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You have to play the game first.

Breath of the Wild obviously

>Top that off with mediocre gameplay from the first game
>t. didn't play the game

it showed how thin skinned and sensitive can gamers be, I was delighted to see these manchildren getting exposed as the brainlet they are

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If they wanted a sequel, they could had used a brand new cast, set on another part of USA with maybe 1 or 2 cameos just to throw a bone to the hardcore fans

It is significantly better than any other game they've made gameplay wise. I thought TLoU was very stiff, not that interesting mechanically. I loved the combat in Part 2. Multiplayer should be very good once it's out.

It's hardly the first game to do that, nor will it be the last.

>Ellie Kills everyone besides the soul person responsible for her fake fathers death.
He was trying to murder Abby in the end but the flashback of Joel reminded him that Joel would't want Lev to die.

>Abbey kills a man named Joel because his name is Joel. Doesn't remotely question if it's the right one.
His brother was called Tommy which confirmed it it was right Joel.

>Abby being the worst for having a build impossible for her living conditions
Yeah this I can agree. Probably writers/animators really thought woman can achieve such arms by crossfit lol. You can see her arms have gotten clearly smaller before she was captured by rattlers in the end though.

>a lot of crying
Shame that you didn't like it. Most of us did.

GotY and high IQ story for intellectual and literary chads. Seethe, brainlets

>Abby being the worst for having a build impossible for her living conditions.
They literally have agricultural setup. There's even a point where they have tacos for a meal.

BotW a big one, I also chuck it at the DS titles.

>Abby being the worst for having a build impossible for her living conditions.

The game justifies from a story perspective why she gets jacked. Asking the player to suspend their disbelief that a woman could get that jacked is not asking much. And ultimately her physique serves the purpose of allowing them to do the Abby/Ellie fight scene and show two skinny lesbians having their faces brutally beaten in. They would not be able to do that if Abby was a man, and it look so stupid if Abby was skinny or realistically muscular.

I think Druckmann is disingenuous when he claims Abby's physique/Lev's transness weren't political decisions, but neither have a negative impact on the story. And in Abby's case her physique contributes to an actually distinct character design.

Some actually think TLoU universe is about fanservice or happy endings, and Joel was Chris Redfield dad version or some shit
What's funny though is that they didn't even understand part 1's plot, which was basic af

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My favorite ps4 game. The sniper encounter alone is one of the greatest game/movie moments to grace my screen. Michael Mann would be proud

This has to be a troll thread

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This. Last of Us is like a 9 or 10/10 game. This game is like a 7/10. The hate was overblown like always because gamers are emotional retards who hate anything that's outside of their worldview.

>keep trying, the thread will go my way this time

>Noooooo you cant have different opinions, everyone has to agree with meeeee!
Reddit is down the road

nah, TLOU1 was a 7 at best. part 2 is around a 4. the gameplay is... decent, but there's not much reason for me to play it instead of 1's multiplayer. the game's main selling point is the story, which is abysmal. if 2 had MP then it could probably get pushed to a 5 or a 6.

Yes, Abby was based.

>This game is like a 7/10
I disconcur, the gameplay and level design are vastly improved and conceptually the plot was more creative and developed that generic father/daughter bonding relationship from point a to point b with little twist at the end

lou1 7.5/10
lou2 9.5/10

Yes. It was the game of the generation.

Wrong.

No, but it was fine to give it one. They came up with something that draws itself very naturally out of how the original ended.

Reading a post or two on Zig Forums doesn't count as playing the game.

This.

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see now was believable, this is just sad.

Begone SnoyBoy shills, your SJW game with ugly trannies getting fucked in the ass bombed, deal with it

tranny porn belongs on Zig Forums and /gif/.

No, still shit. Stop this dust has settled crap. DmC was a bad game. Andromeda was a bad game. TLOU2 is a bad game, and they will still be bad years from now, get over it

game is good

Yours is opinion based. Mine is based on averages of metacritic. If we average journo's and gamers it adds to 9.3. The other one adds up to 7.5.
So no you're wrong. You can say in your opinion it's 7 and 4 but overall wide view on the game is they're closer to what I said.

People that were upset Joel died are retards. If you had a functioning brain, you could probably tell he was gonna bite the bullet. The problem most people had with the story is how they turned Joel into this softy pillow sack when he was exclusively known for being an asshole. Do you guys believe TLoU1 Joel would reveal to a group of random strangers his real name? With his reputation?

Nope didn't even beat God of War. Witcher 3 also superior and more definitive of this generation than this shitty movie

Remember to sage when you reply to this bait thread!

>Literally one of the best selling titles for PS4
>"Noooooooo it failed! it failed because the memes said so! S-shill!"

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>7/10 game
>Zig Forums talks about it more than any other place on the internet
Seriously why has this board gotten so shitty lately? At least make effort to bait instead of this boring trash.

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I didnt like the story or characters
The gameplay was serviceable

>walking simulator game is the game of the generation
gaming really is dead

Witcher 3 is unironically a mediocre game.

Fpbp

Funny how the memes actually are true, this game is truly disgusting

That would be GOW, Spiderman and Witcher 3 sweetie

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>better
Game play wise, I would agree it's probably better. The problem is when you're playing unlikable character like abby that kinda ruins the experience. Also the overall story wasn't as great as the previous game.

He's correct though. His view is probably the exact average of what people thought.

I get the trans character being political, but why the fuck a girl being jacked makes it political in your mind?

user said 'One' of the best selling games
The list doesn't stop at 5 games user.

t. didn't play the game

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The funny thing is that both those games are more enjoyable than TLOU2. And at least Andromeda included the multiplayer mode that everyone loved from the last game.

>Yours is opinion based.
No, it's based on the facts of what the game has to offer.
>Mine is based on averages of metacritic
So it's worthless. Imagine bragging about the fact that you don't think for yourself.
>So no you're wrong. You can say in your opinion it's 7 and 4 but overall wide view on the game is they're closer to what I said.
Why are their opinions more important than mine?

yeah Zig Forums shitted on this game as they do everything but tlou2 was one of the rare cases where it actually was that bad.

>not top 5
Literally a who

>The problem is when you're playing unlikable character like abby
this is a subjective opinion, therefore meaningless criticism