Is this the most pretentious RPG of all time? Its pretty fucking terrible even with the restored content. At least KOTOR1 is fun, even if generic.
Is this the most pretentious RPG of all time? Its pretty fucking terrible even with the restored content...
It sure attracts a lot of pedophiles. Makes sense since Avellone is a rapist.
No, 100% of Japanese "RPGs" somehow manage to be worse.
They don't try to pus a narrative as badly as your typical Avellone game.
What?
And no it’s really good
You are a (singular) faggot
OP here. No, I don't give a shit about Avellone nor his fans. I actually liked New Vegas, but KOTOR2 just sucks ass. Not a very good Star Wars game.
>What?
WHAT?
cope
Cringe kotor 2 is the best Star Wars game and best obsidian game behind new Vegas
Its unfinished garbage that's overly preachy.
The jailbait party member is in kotor 1 though
Ok so every obsidian game. I don’t find it preachy. One (1) character is preachy and the game ends by you saying “lol you are wrong, retarded, and preachy” then you kill her.
>a star wars game
>pretentious
Mate.
What's so pretentious about it? Its themes are pretty clear despite the cuts and unfinished content. This game had one of the more interesting portrayals of the Sith I have seen in SW media, and it pays a great deal of respect to the the old EU, like with the Korriban and Onderon sections and references to figures like Exar Kun and Ulic Qel-Droma.
Kreia may have been a mouthpiece to Avellone's own views on the SW universe, but that didn't come at the cost of disparaging its own setting, something newer movies and games are far too happy to do.
In fact, it's still baffling to me that people still believe Kreia's ultimate goal was to kill the Force. She spells it out to you that all her threats and bluster were to get you to Malachor V, have you slay and surpass her like in common Sith fashion. She did all of that to have you carry out a new Jedi/Sith order free of the errors of their previous selves.
People’s reading comprehension is below sea level.
Kreia never intended to kill the force, she needed to present a credible threat that you could face. That way, you could physically confront your past and go on to what you need to do, face the true Sith.
KOTOR 2 isn't pretentious, it's just written by people who know basic writing conventions (i.e. having antagonists that thematically oppose the protagonist, having recurring motifs, imagery and ideas, etc). This is all writing 101 that even the original Star Wars movies followed.
It isn't that KOTOR 2 is pretentious, it is that all of the other Star Wars games are immensely retarded and are written by fanfic writers whose thoughts end at "what sith lord is the most powerfulest?"
>Kreia may have been a mouthpiece to Avellone's own views on the SW universe, but that didn't come at the cost of disparaging its own setting
It absolutely shits on the previous game in the series. Its like if the Dark SIde ending happened, even if you pick Light Side. The whole backstory of KOTOR2 makes no sense.
>Republic beats the Sith
>but Jedi are genocided, driven to extinction by a mute dude in a wrecked ship and a standard 2000s edgelord MUH PAIN villain
How does this shit make any sense? How is it consistent? It was literally done to drove Avellone's point of
>hurr Jedi are terrible
They fucking won the war that happened just a few months ago retard. They blew up the Star Forge, killed Malak and saved the Republic. If you wanted to set something in that sort of 'Jedi driven to extinction' setting, use the period in-between the Prequels and the OT.
The most minor villains in class stories are probably more interesting than Nihilus and Sion. We're meant to believe that a dude with like a dozen assassins and a dude in a wrecked ship can make the Republic tremble. Its fucking retarded. Vitiate was shit, yes, but that doesn't redeem Nihilus and Sion.
>We're meant to believe that a dude with like a dozen assassins and a dude in a wrecked ship can make the Republic tremble.
Game was made during the Bush era, don't be surprised its dystopian as hell complete with clear allegories to Al Qaeda. It was a different time.
Looking at the kind of shit they put out today, im impressed you would think so lols.
>a dude with like a dozen assassins
He can murder a planet by himself
And he has way more assassins
And why are you ignoring the entire armt bith have at their disposal?
Its specifically mentioned that the only army they have is old remnants of Revan and Malak's empire. They're basically warlords, and not the only ones in the neighborhood. Somehow these two chucklefucks genocided an entire Jedi Order??? A Victorious one??
>It absolutely shits on the previous game in the series. Its like if the Dark SIde ending happened, even if you pick Light Side. The whole backstory of KOTOR2 makes no sense.
How does it not? Have you forgotten that Dantooine's Jedi order got nuked in the first game? That the Republic has come out of not one but two consecutive wars? Is it then impossible to believe that after battling the Mandalorians (who were on the verge of winning the war) as well as Revan and Malak who turned part of that same Republic into traitorous Sith, that the former would be in a precarious state and that crime organizations and secessionists run rampant?
It makes sense that the Jedi order is now weak and on its knees.
Its not just weak, its apparently down to like 3 guys. If it was weak, that's fine, but its completely fucking gone.
I wouldn't say pretentious, but I made it through KOTOR1 playing as a gun-slinging Jedi and it was still a great time. KOTOR2 got dropped because I was bored as fuck, even with the new content patch, during my replay.
It's fun as well.
I could never do a second run of KOTOR2. I always got to Telos, fucked around with some mods, and dropped it.
after reading the replies i can only come to the conclusion that you guys are dumb as fucking bricks and highly addicted to this website. bye, niggerfaggots
They had more, though they were not that many to begin with. They were about a hundred when the meeting on Katarr happened, and that many Jedi in one place caused Nihilus to come out from outer space and siphon the planet barren.
After that they had no way to replenish their numbers since everywhere they gathered the rogue Sith came to slay them.
It's sad so little people get it.
>while the Republic...
>slept
retarded