I'm just gonna say it. THERE WAS NO CURE.
I'm just gonna say it. THERE WAS NO CURE
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Well, yeah.
It was a vaccine.
anyone else laughed when they saw how clean the room looked and how good looking the doctor was in the 2nd one like Neils saying
>look what you did you monster
You're telling me that even though there were many other immune that couldn't get a vaccine. Ellie would just magically be the one? Seems like Niel wrote himself into a hole
Not even that, even if they dissected the girl there was no guarantees that they would be able to discover anything
When I played it I shot all remaining nurses in the room. I also I don’t wear a mask in stores. I’m pretty based if you ask me.
I always thought it was baffling that anyone (in-game or in discussion about the game) tried to justify cutting up Ellie beyond "It's worth a shot, right?". The fireflies hadn't a fucking clue what they were doing.
Holy BASED
>many other immune
Isn’t that just some bullshit Joel made up?
I also killed them, especially the screaming bitch, used a shotgun on her.
Honestly the best shot would be for the immunity to pass genetically (Ellie having kids)
But that would make too much sense, so she’s a bulldyke instead
yeah in the first game it was horrid and grimey as fuck
>being lgbt during post-apocalypse
sounds like a recipe for disaster
Going by how we develop vaccines in reality, Ellies case was highly likely to give results. Ellie is the type of person we look for because she showed absolutely no symptoms at all.
Even with Covid-19 we can see that people are spreading the virus even if they aren't getting sick. But with Ellies case she isn't even spreading the virus. The only reason we know she is immune is not because of her antibodies, but because of her getting bit with no symptoms and breathing spores on the regular.
>the immunity to pass genetically
Except it wasn't her genes you idiot, it was the fungus itself that had mutated.
In reality, when we find people with rare immunities or other abnormalities, we don't immediately escalate to killing the only living test subject we know of. Pulling her apart to see what they could do with her special shroom on its own would maybe make sense if there was even one other immune subject on hand, or after years of study leading to dead-end desperation.
The reason we don't kill is because we have everything we need to extract the correct material without killing the subject, also TLOU's case is unique in that it grows on the brain specifically.
No, it's reflected in a tape Joel finds, a Firefly doctor lamenting how many immune they've cut up in the past but haven't found a cure yet
>even though there were many other immune that couldn't get a vaccine.
Don't talk shit.
The last recording you find in the first game has one of the schmucks at the hospital talking about how blood drawn from Ellie, like every other infected, grows Cordyceps. What could they possibly do with her brain that they couldn't do with the samples they can readily and indefinitely harvest from her.
>okay we've got the immune girl, let's scoop her brain out
>shouldn't we at least try a blood sample or a spinal fluid tap fi-
>SCOOP. HER. BRAIN. OUT.
Stop lying to people.
You literally didn't play the first game. Ironic huh, considering that's your only defense of the second.
>what's the point in trying lol
It was the actual growth in her head that had mutated - that's what was special about her immunity.
I'm so glad Chabby put this boomer out of his misery.
Here's the link to every single artifact and recording you can find in the first game. Go ahead and find the recording that suggests there were other immune subjects, and then post it here.
I mean even if you need brain tissue, you can take brain tissue from a person without killing them can't you?
Not easily enough that it'd be a casual medical thing today, but I'm pretty sure you could actually crack Ellie's head open and harvest what you need while still having a 90%+ chance of her being alive and not retarded afterwards. Nobody suggests that either.
>The last recording you find in the first game has one of the schmucks at the hospital talking about how blood drawn from Ellie, like every other infected, grows Cordyceps
Source?
I don't recall that at all. All I understood was that they needed to harvest the growth on her brain.
Also, Ellie isn't able to spread her infection as is proven by her relationships and her biting David and without him showing any symptoms hours after getting bit.
>I mean even if you need brain tissue, you can take brain tissue from a person without killing them can't you?
Yes. If you have the equipment and a brain surgeon. But as far as I understand they only had a virus specialist.
lol this is so retarded. they could have gunned her down 3 times.
It's not the brain tissue they need though - it's the actual fungal growth itself.
Transcript of the recording is here:
iirc the x-ray shows the fungus being a comical bullseye right in the center of her brain. could be misremembering tho
>me pressing triangle ended Joel's life and ruined Abby's and Ellie's
I'm so sorry.
You didnt discover all the things.
Yes they had done this before, but the others were not like ellie. she was something theyd never seen before
Hard to shoot when you're busy shitting yourself as Chabby runs at you.
So clearly the parasite in Ellie's brain is what results in the infection not going anywhere, but at the same time whatever causes it isn't a mutation that is given to its offspring.
So in order to study what the fuck is going on the full fungus is needed.
But, how in god's name would that lead to a vaccine? A weird-ass infection in the fungus that, for whatever reason, doesn't even spread to its offspring is not going to lead to a vaccine. Do these guys even know what a vaccine does or how they work? Because I can tell you right now that a vaccine doesn't do anything to the pathogen it's targeting, it tries to create an immune response in the body, or just dumps a load of antigens into the bloodstream for some vaccines.
In fact, using a mutated cordyceps at base risks making a vaccine that only works for that particular mutated cordyceps, depending on if the parts of the fungus it targets have a mutated structure as well.
And that's not even going into the fact that there's literally no working fungal vaccine as we speak. Even in our non-apocalyptic society we haven't managed to make one, so what are the odds that some quack in a filthy hospital is going to succeed?
>this is something we've never seen before
>lets kill them
This game was actually pretty stupid.
you just dont understand
need the brains
gotta get em
>we were the zombies all along
Naughty Dog can't write for shit.
You're meant to just meet the game halfway on this and accept the idea that a vaccine is theoretically possible - just as you're meant to accept the premise that cordyceps mutated to affect mammals in that universe.
none of these things went through Joel's head, therefore non of these things have any sort of relevance
>make a vaccine from Ellie's brain
>everybody who gets it is now immune to cordyceps but they're also homosexual like her
Congratulations on dooming humanity
Makes it even easier, the enemies just have insanely low reaction time
They had a working MRI machine?
I never played the games but I thought it was like the apocalypse or whatever.
>In fact, using a mutated cordyceps at base risks making a vaccine that only works for that particular mutated cordyceps
Immunity to the pathogen would mean she was only immune to the strain in her, but the point is everything points towards it not just being the pathogen in her own case, but all cordyceps. ie. she is immune to the virus shell and not just the virus.
>you're just meant to accept it
Fungal parasites, fine, but to throw science further under the bus like that juat makes your writing shit.
Obviously.
I can only suspend my disbelief so far.
Nah, I could accept a hypothetical vaccine, but I cannot accept this retarded way of making it. Extracting a mutated fungus to somehow create a vaccine out of it could work in a sci-fi universe, but this is clearly grounded in our universe so their approach is hilariously retarded on a fundamental level.
It doesn't matter if there was or wasn't, it wouldn't have impacted Joel's decision in the slightest. Why is all TLOU discussion such brainletism?
"Joel was a hunter because he said he's been on both sides of an ambush! That means he's pure evil!"
"There was no cure so a man who killed a bunch of people and didn't care was right because an audio recording mentioned experiments on indeterminate specimens!"
Every time, you retards argue the same objectively incorrect horseshit.
one little girl is nothing in comparison of a single chance to find a cure, think about the literal billions that died for absolute nothing since the infections started
This isn't the case in the game either. It would be lazy writing if it was.
Couldn't they just infect people with the mutated fungus? Don't some vaccines already work like that?