Christopher, my son... I am dying

>Christopher, my son... I am dying...
>If anyone ever makes a video game out of my works, make sure they include the part about Shelob secretly being a hot goth chick who's not evil and is rivals with Galadriel

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Why was this allowed?

need me a goth gf

cope incel
the game was lit

There agelong she had dwelt, an evil thing in spider-form, even such as once of old had lived in the Land of the Elves in the West that is now under the Sea, such as Beren fought in the Mountains of Terror in Doriath, and so came to Lúthien upon the green sward amid the hemlocks in the moonlight long ago. How Shelob came there, flying from ruin, no tale tells, for out of the Dark Years few tales have come. But still she was there, who was there before Sauron, and before the first stone of Barad-dûr; and she served none but herself, drinking the blood of Elves and Men, bloated and grown fat with endless brooding on her feasts, weaving webs of shadow; for all living things were her food, and her vomit darkness. Far and wide her lesser broods, bastards of the miserable mates, her own offspring, that she slew, spread from glen to glen, from the Ephel Dúath to the eastern hills, to Dol Guldur and the fastnesses of Mirkwood. But none could rival her, Shelob the Great, last child of Ungoliant to trouble the unhappy world.

Already, years before, Gollum had beheld her, Sméagol who pried into all dark holes, and in past days he had bowed and worshipped her, and the darkness of her evil will walked through all the ways of his weariness beside him, cutting him off from light and from regret. And he had promised to bring her food. But her lust was not his lust. Little she knew of or cared for towers, or rings, or anything devised by mind or hand, who only desired death for all others, mind and body, and for herself a glut of life. alone, swollen till the mountains could no longer hold her up and the darkness could not contain her.

People are still ass hurt about this?
Shelob was described as a shape shifter just as much as she was described as being a spider.
She was the last child of Ungoliant, who was a primordial whos preferred form was a giant spider, but wasn't actually a spider.
It's really not hard to believe that Shelob could take the form of a human, the same way other magic creatures can change their appearance.

you can't convince that this isn't a generic fantasy game with LOTR branding only to sell more copies

putting Stoya in the game was the one time they improved on the lore

There is no good pov porn of Stoya.
God damn why does she have to look like her

I'm not especially fond of Tolkien's prose, but that's a cool idea. I especially like the idea that she doesn't give a shit about the Ring: all she cares about is killing and eating everything that comes across her path. Reminds me a bit of the Lovecraft circle and Robert Howard, desu.

>instead Gollum succeeds where he could not
ACCIDENTALLY
THAT'S THE POINT
EVIL ALWAYS DESTROYS ITSELF VIA AMBITION AND INFIGHTING
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

writing simps really think >duality explains away all shitty plot choices

not to mention that "luck" is literally the hand of God in LotR

>And make it clear that she's a good friend to Frodo

That shit always bothered me.
>sink Numenor
>revive Gandalf
>the Ring? uuuuh no you guys do it, I'll maybe slap Gollum into the lava if I feel like it
It's just so arbitrary. I'm an atheist (*tips fedora*) so I don't understand how Christians can take the randomness of God interferring

>Gollum succeeds
Literally stumbles into Mt. Doom with a little help of god.
What a fucking hack

what i mean is when he goes on about how Galadriel and Gandal are lying and manipulative
the fellowship knew how dangerous and hopeless what they tried to do was
maybe not the hobbits, since they're retards, but the rest did
they bravely and willingly accepted that, but this cynical cunt has to shit on that and claim they were just pawns to these old and powerful characters

hot

What was her rape policy?

>bastards of the miserable mates, her own offspring, that she slew,

am I reading this correctly? Does this mean she fucks her own spidersons and then kills them?

the thing is that Eru, in LotR, gives each mortal a chance to be or not be the greatest person they could through their own strength of will and character
it's only when it would be impossible for any mortal, no matter how great, to succeed that Eru intervenes

The people of middle earth got a chance to prove their worth, and they performed as well as anyone could hope for

For Frodo this meant taking the ring to Mt Doom, which he did. However he could have never tossed the ring in, as such an action was impossible
So as a reward Eru helped carry him the last step, without invalidating the worth of the thousands that came before

It's right though that it's kind of a plot point. Only kind of, since of course the theme is still a small band (and in the end just two hobbits) fighting for good against all odds
But logically, there was no reason for Galadriel not to join them. Hell, she's like the sister of Feanor or something, right? And Tolkien kept making more tales about her so she was presumably quite powerful

That's invertebrates for ya

wouldn't she be too tempted by the ring and too powerful if she got it the reason she didn't go with them?

Gandalf went with them, and he was afraid of what he might do if Frodo offered him the Ring
That still seems arbitrary to me. If it's impossible to destroy the Ring yourself on purpose, why not intervene when Frodo gets stung by Shelob and captured?

And now that also Christopher is dead, get ready for a grade A rape of Tolkien's cosmos. Starting with Amazon's Numenor series where they fired the Tolkien scholar guy.

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He didn't need to save Frodo outright now did he?

Once again, he sunk an entire island (and a quarter of a continent IIRC) and reshaped the entire world because some retard stepped foot on the western continent

Except Gandalf always was a better person than Galadriel

You can't really rape the cosmos where a whole race springs up from seven midget dudes and an evil wizard transforms into a werewolf and a vampire.

Why did they use Stoya as inspiration for her?

Sunk an entire island because the Valar themselves appealed as they didn't know how to respond

You fool, it will be The Last Ringbearer but made "officially".

>afraid of spiders, user?

>where a whole race springs up from seven midget dudes
Eru simply created another race just like he did all the others, Aule building some guys out of clay beforehand is pretty insubstantial to the dwarves' existence
>as they didn't know how to respond
War, of course. This certainly wasn't a "every hero has given it their all and ran out of options" deal

I think it's coincidental.
Look up her VA, if you give her pale sking and black her, she kind of looks like Stoya, only older and less sexy.

Stoya is kinda beautiful though.

Everyone always complains about goth tits but no one ever mentions how cool her monstergirl design actually is

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Her face looks more like Dana DeArmond anyway

She based on the voice actress. She doesn't even look like Stoya all that much.

>Green recalls that after Lewis had shared the opening chapters of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe with Tolkien, "who had disliked it intensely," Lewis then read it to Green. Shortly after, Tolkien saw Green and remarked, "I hear you've been reading Jack's [Lewis's] children's story. It really won't do, you know! I mean to say: 'Nymphs and their Ways, The Love-Life of a Faun'. Doesn't he know what he's talking about?" (qtd. in Green and Hooper 241). (1) Green provides no explanation of what Tolkien meant; however, this has not prevented critics from interpreting Tolkien's comment.

>Joe R. Christopher observes that Nymphs and their Ways is one of the books which appears on Mr. Tumnus's bookcase in Chapter II of The Lion. According to Christopher, Tolkien was bothered by this scene because Lewis was distorting and sentimentalizing the myth ("Narnian Exile" 41). He suggests, "[I]f Lucy had really met a faun--that is, a satyr--the result would have been a rape, not a tea party"

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>look up "Stoya without makeup" to burn you TFO
>she looks like this
fug
brehs

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Because Sam was able to save Frodo and did
Look, just realize for a moment that God’s miracles aren’t utilitarian little spells you can just rely on or hope to get you out of any mess. Eru permitted Morgoth to corrupt the cosmic song, because Eru was pleased by the dissonance and conflict Morgoth’s corruption brought. Eru permits evil in the world because it brings transcendental beauty with the conflict it brings into the world, but Eru will simply not let good be extinguished so long as mortals strive and succeed to do good within creation. Therefore, when mortals reach their ultimate limit in the good they can do against an evil it can’t defeat, Eru intervenes, aids in destroying the evil, and allows good to continue, because so long as people have good, Eru will see that it prevails

That's a God built around heroic tales he can influence at just the right time, not an actual creator of a world

why do bangs makes girls so much better?

>Eru simply created another race just like he did all the others, Aule building some guys out of clay beforehand is pretty insubstantial to the dwarves' existence

Now really? I remember some passages about Aule's creations put to sleep (maybe even crystal coffins) to awaken only after special snowflake race chosen by Eru to be super awesome appears.

Hang yourself mindless ADHD button masher.

HEE HOO TIME TO USE THE RING FOR MY GIGANTIC COCK

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Yeah but Eru gave them life. It's like me drawing a humanoid and literal capital G God coming in and making them real people
Their life still comes from God, not from those drawings

>a whole race springs up from seven midget dudes
And their wives. Plus Aule and Eru built more.
>evil wizard transforms into a werewolf and a vampire
Is that your problem?
Also
>wizard
Why are retards allowed have to have an opinion on things they know little to nothing about?

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