>But in the new filing, Epic argues that more than its reputation has been harmed: “Daily active users on iOS have declined by over 60% since Fortnite’s removal from the App Store,” Epic claims. (It measured through September 2nd, in case you’re curious; by that point Fortnite had effectively split into two different games.)
>Epic says iOS is the biggest platform for Fortnite, too: 116 million registered users, or nearly a third of the 350 million registered users Epic says Fortnite has attracted in total. It also claims 63 percent of Fortnite users on iOS access Fortnite only on iOS, and that it’s the only way for many people to play the game.
>Epic says it’s worried it “may never see these users again” (referring to the 60 percent decline); that its Fortnite community of players has been torn apart; and that some of its non-Fortnite customers have also been collateral damage. As we reported last week, some of Epic’s other games are no longer available to re-download, and Epic says that its Shadow Complex Remastered has been removed from the Mac App Store, too, after Apple terminated Epic’s developer account.
>Epic also claims that Apple is threatening to deny any attempts to apply for a new developer account “for at least a year,” quoting a communication from Apple itself, and is arguing that the harm it would endure by being “denied the opportunity to access even a single new user among the one-billion-plus iOS users for at least the next year” is harm worth creating a preliminary injunction for.
This is pretty much just pure whining at this point, Jesus Christ Tim. Apple would not have taken your game off the store if you just went with a regular lawsuit instead of breaking your contract first and trying to smear them immediately afterwards. It's on you, lad.
Nolan Jackson
Tldr, fuck apple!
Austin Nguyen
More like "Epic Fail" games
Anthony Cruz
>Epic also claims that Apple is threatening to deny any attempts to apply for a new developer account “for at least a year,” quoting a communication from Apple itself, and is arguing that the harm it would endure by being “denied the opportunity to access even a single new user among the one-billion-plus iOS users for at least the next year” is harm worth creating a preliminary injunction for. Can someone explain why this is worth bringing up for Epic in their case? Why should the court care if Apple doesn't let a company onto their store? They could ban them indefinitely if they wanted as far as I can tell, it's their platform. But maybe there's some legal hoopla I'm unaware of.
Nicholas Kelly
FPBP, fuck off with your drama faggotry.
Grayson Gray
Uh oh, the well is drying up. But in all seriousness, who would have expected that many people on iOS playing fortnite.
Adrian Ramirez
how long until they come for his organs you think?
Lincoln Edwards
>Fartnite is dead Press F
Ayden Scott
QUICK, SOMEONE BRING UP STEAM/VALVE, WE NEED TO DEFLECT IMMEDIATELY
Brandon Smith
Epic's entire case revolves around convincing the judge that apple is mean and should not get money they are entitled to under law.
Connor Gray
>Epic try to slander Apple and jew them out of 30% on their own platform >Apple then fully kicks them off the app store including Unreal Engine games I think Apple is a shit company, but I can't say I hate them for doing this. They should have seen it coming honestly.
Landon Rogers
You get what you deserve Timmy
Parker Ward
O. So this game was only popular for pc scrubs and children ?
Noah Williams
There is always a bigger fish. Epic should have stayed ruling their small pond.
Christian Nguyen
>Hate Apple >Legitimately hate Apple, they are stifling right to repair hard, their dumbass design decisions are reflected in other phones and devices because the other companies want to get apple users to jump over >Epic comes along and makes Apple look like the good guys Fuck you Tim. You're making me defend Apple.
Tyler Butler
>not video games >meanwhile 5+ concurrent twitter screenshot threads exist this is the most vidya related thing on this board
Brandon Lopez
They had to allow UE shit back onto the store last I checked, as per judge. Which is totally understandable, since kicking off everything UE related fucks with developers who don't have anything to do with the lawsuit.
Josiah Thomas
>including Unreal Engine games This part especially is pretty funny. Imagine being a dev or publisher and waking up one day to find out your game has been removed from the app store because timmy wanted to start shit with apple. This who case just reeks of big fish in a small pond too. Epic tried to play hardball and they got destroyed. >excuse me, did you just ban fortnite from the app store?! do you know who I am?! >bans all games using unreal engine >DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHO YOU'RE MESSING WITH?!
James Cox
Lol, steamfags amirite?
Josiah Hill
Y-yeah fellow valvebro... epic is done for...
Jayden Wright
Reminder that Apple already stated Fortnite can come back to the Apple store and all they have to do is revert the direct payment patch. Timmy refused and is now trying to pin the fault on Apple for not letting him violate the agreement and give them nothing. >Epic agrees to 30% cut to be on the Apple Store >One day decides they don't like this anymore and Timmy writes an email at fucking 2am saying he's not gonna follow the agreement anymore and puts in the update, knowing no one read his statement yet >Apple pulls Fortnite for violating the TOS >IMMEDIATELY Timmy and Epic start a smear campaign against Apple that was very clearly planned out, proving without a doubt that this was an intentional publicity stunt >Apple still says Fortnite can come back any day and all Epic has to do is revert the direct payment patch, and Epic can still even try to take them to court down the road >Epic refuses and tries to get a judge to force Apple to let them use all of their infrastructure for free >Judge tells them that they knowingly pulled this stunt, and as such they cannot claim any of the lost profits/bad publicity is anything other than self inflicted Honestly at this point I think the long term goal is to convince an army of zoomers that Apple is bad, and Epic is going to release their own line of smartphones where they can have a monopoly of their own, which is what Timmy desperately wants
>want to break contract >get told what will happen if you break contract >break contract >what they told you would happen happens >woooooooow how was I supposed to know???? This is just pure retardation, if Epic wanted to sue Apple for anticompetitive practices or whatever they could've done so WITHOUT breaching contract, but of course that wouldn't have been as impactful in the fanbase. At this point that's what Epic is doing, playing for the audience hoping to get people riled up, I have no doubt Epic knows they're gonna get denied and don't care, it's all just a show.
Ian Sullivan
I'm with you there, user. I don't have a horse in this race, I'm just enjoying the corporate shitshow. Tim tried a power play and it's backfiring.
Apple is well within their right to do all of that to Epic and more.
Ryder Rivera
The funny thing is other devs may actually be able to sue Timmy for putting their games at risk, because he had absolutely no reason to one day decide to violate the TOS and start a lawsuit over not being allowed to do so
Ryder Evans
>start a fight with someone smarter than you for no reason what so ever other than greed >lose the fight >begging to be let back in now Epic did this to themselves. No pity from me.
Grayson Smith
This. Imagine giving a shit about Fortnite, or EGS drama.
Liam Long
Epic was hoping their zoomer army would heed the call and use social media to pressure apple into giving in. That's why they had the 1984 apple ad spoof and freefortnite hashtag ready. Didn't really work out for them.
Colton Lopez
Can we expect Apple to win the court and fuck with fartnite player base so Epic revenue will dropping?
