IMAGINE TRYING TO TROLL APPLE FOR SOME HATS MONEY

IMAGINE TRYING TO TROLL APPLE FOR SOME HATS MONEY

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This entire thing needs to be fought against. Apple charges 100$ a year for apps on app store , apart from that they do give concessions to some developers on their store , for eg Amazon pays 15% cut instead of 30% for other developers. And they are earning this money for doing nothing in development of the app. And the entire access to apple ecosystem thing is bullshit , they have this ecosystem because developers make apps for their ecosystem. 30% is too much that's almost 1/3 of the money. I remember even Spotify raised voice against this. Atleast Google allows you to distribute apps through your own platform and thus not pay any cut of your earnings.

That’s how apple has ALWAYS been
Maybe consumers should do some research into the products they’re buying first. I bought a iPhone fully aware that I won’t be able to get apps from anyone but apple.

Apple did 9/11.

Really weird to be this defensive of corporate moneygrabs that take away your own freedom, little dude.

Both are trash, the best thing that can happen is that it drags out and both waste recources.

what the fuck apple flew over my house
happening?

Actually if you get tied in to their ecosystem it's hard to leave , therefore if you get any iphone it's almost hard to shift to any other phone than an iPhone
Yeah but I don't think Tim will win this one , this time he is not against valve ,he is against a trillion dollar super corporation. Although I will give him the credit for trying to put up a fight .

user, you're quite literally defending Epic. You did know that, right?

Take away what freedoms?
Freedom doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want. Contracts and agreements are still a thing, and in buying an apple product, you’re pretty much agreeing to be bound by the ecosystem. It’s like buying a PlayStation and bitching that it can’t play Xbox games
You knew the things limitation when you bought it, and if you didn’t, you’re just a mindless consumer.

I hope Apple annihilates Epic.
This is very clearly an indirect attack by Tencent on an america company that stands in the way of china dominating the tech industry, if you side with Epic on this then you're either retarded or a chink shill.

Lesser of two evils

>that take away your own freedom
How are they doing that when you chose a closed system of your own volition?

Not when China is involved.

hopefully this is the beginning of the end for Epic

imagine if they didn't poach those kickstarter games that were originally going to be on Steam, people might even be on their side on this one for sticking it to Apple

Best result would be the judge ignoring both cases and ruling for trial by combat.

>Lesser of two evils
we're on a video game board and Apple is irrelevant

B-b-b-b-buy muh nopoly! Even though Apple has less than 10% of the smartphone market!

I am defending Epic, because this lawsuit will make iOS a more open platform, which benefits small time developers and customers just as much.
You can choose getting a more open platform, or keeping a more closed platform. Your remark is irrelevant. Supporting Apple is supporting less customer freedom, even if you were aware of the limitations when you bought the device.

The thing is, you're completely right but the way Epic handled it will make it very hard for that to be argued against in the future because of how much of a shitshow they made of the whole thing. They could have done things better by pulling out of the App Store and then trying to take Apple to court. They resorted to scummy underhanded tactics because that's how Epic is and now it bit them in the ass and killed any sort of future arguments for a while against Apple.

How does Epic making more money in Fortnite help me as a consumer again

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Anything that hurts Epic is fine by me.
Tim trying to spin this into a pro consumer move is such bullshit.

why does Epic attack Apple, instead of Sony or Nintendo?
all of them do essentially the same thing

Apple would barely feel it. They're worth about a thousand times what Epic is.

zoomers are too used to seeing this as the new normal
Remember when the government used to apply antitrust laws?
Remember when microsoft got fucked in court for trying to control what browser people installed in their windows?
This will never happen again. The silicon valley made sure of it

They’ll make fort it’s bucks cheaper!
(For 2 months untill they jack the price up to what it was before)

>I am defending Epic, because this lawsuit will make iOS a more open platform, which benefits small time developers and customers just as much.
How?

You know you can criticize two opposing groups independently on different merits, right? You realize that's possible?

Epic is pro developer, not pro consumer

>Supporting Apple is supporting less customer freedom
Customers do have freedom, they have the freedom to not buy an Apple device.

Want to know a foolproof solution? Don't buy Aple, you dipshit.

Please ignore the fact my company pays money to monopolize the distribution of games on PC, this is all for consumer freedoms! Sure we'll be making a boatload more money if we win, but it's all for you, the consumer!

Because Tencent has a smartphone app store, but not a Sony or Nintendo game store. That's not even the usual Tianenmen Square shitposting, that's literally part of Apple's countersuit.

For once I side with Apple. Fuck Epic Games and their greediness.

Enemy of my enemy is my friend. Or in corporations' case - attack on a detriment to me is a benefit to me.
If you think you're above him, realize you just treated a corporation like a human that you can either like or dislike, not as a souless entity it is - judging each action they take individually on it's own, but with the context of previous behaviour.

Damn, Apple is raping them in every single way they can. Epic will be made an example of what happens when anyone fucks with Apple.

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Either it will lower the cut they take - for all developers, including tiny ones - or they will be forced to allow people to sideload apps/storefronts.

Apple winning or losing would in absolutely no fucking way affect me, because I'm not an iPhone faggot. Epic losing, however, would benefit me greatly.

At this point of time apple is more of a Chinese company than fucking Tencent. All these corporations are the flag bearers of globalism and diversity they will do anything to decrease cost of manufacturing and research , they don't care about American interests , they don't even care about human interests they only care about profit.

It won't.
In fact, if Epic grows its marketshare it will be nothing but a negative for consumers. They're using chinese undercutting tactics on things like the EGS where they operate at a loss to fuck over competition and then once they're in the lead they'll go full scumbag mode.
You know, worse than they already are, i mean.

It doesn't, neither does Apple taking 10% instead of 30% because developers can set their own price so they'll just choose to keep it the same. This is literally Epic wanting to get a foothold in the Apple software, being able to make their own storefront, be able to use Apple's hardware and software with them paying a lower percentage. All under the guise of it being for the consumer and making it better to developers.

Ohh no, those poor indie developers can't pay a 100 dollar a year license and give them 30% of their earning in their shovelware indie bullshit #549554. If anything those fees are keeping things from getting worse than they already are on the Appstore with how much shovelware microtransaction bullshit there already is.

Sony and Nintendo weren’t taking a cut from that V-bucks money.

What if you don't play Fortnite though?

Apple customers don't give a solitary shit about sideloading. That's why they buy Apple products.

apple aren't a threat to anyone in the tech industry, much less tencent, what are you on about

Apple producing in china doesn't make them chinese owned you retard.
I'd rather they didn't do that, but saying that this makes them MORE chinese than a company that is LITERALLY 40% owned by the right hand of the CCP is absurd.

They do actually.

Reminder that Epic could have gone about this whole thing in a better way and actually had a case if they had not done all the bullshit they did to try and pick the public against Apple.

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Can not wait to see APPL lose hundreds billions fined by CCP and banned

Yeah I dont they they will win after these cheap tactics , but atleast they tried.
If you say anything against them get ready to be bombarded by racism , sexism accusations. Hell YouTube wont suggest any videos that try to present an alternate narrative
It's not a out consumers , it's about the developers. Even Facebook is against this.