So when does this fight get fun?
Monster Hunter
it doesn't
unless you use elemental baby weapons in which case you were never having fun to begin with
>The one fight in the game where letting players go back to camp to switch weapons would've actually made perfect sense and played into the fight's mechanics
>Devs decide this should also be the one fight in the game where returning to camp is completely impossible unless you cart
Nothing they do makes a whole lot of sense.
But you really shouldn't even NEED to change your weapons if you're fighting him well enough.
It already is
The fight's only bad if the player is bad
Every update feels like the devs walking back to the old philosophy of design more and more.
>But you really shouldn't even NEED to change your weapons if you're fighting him well enough
I had the misfortune of trying to fight him with randoms, I definitely would've appreciated it
I understand, user.
Though I do think that the natural selection of the fight has largely filtered out the people too stupid to literally mix up their sets even a tiny bit, so SOS now is not really too bad.
I don't get the hate for GU, like you can just play with guild or striker style, you can argue certain weapons got fucket, that being CB(deserved) and GL, even then you can just play with other styles for more fun with these weapons, I agree that the pacing is a bit slow in the beginning with the gathering quest, but since you barely have any cutscenes or story you just do the early key quest and then you can blast through monster, you don't even have to fight subspecies in this game so you have a great variety in the roster unlike with 4U and the subspecies padding.
Carted like crazy until the general strategy got out.
Grabbed the Shara IG.
Pumped Dragon Attack out around 700.
Went to town on his ass.
Sure I only won 7 times out like 25, but it felt challenging without feeling overwhelmed.
Better than Extremoth that’s for sure.
Is Dragon worth using on him if it's high enough? I was under the impression that his Dragon hitzones were so bad that it basically made it worthless for the fight.
When you stop being trash
It wouldn't make the fight much easier anyways since you're on a timer.
compared to just grabbing a frostfang or silver rathalos weapon not really. the dragon hitzones start at like 1 or 2% for fire/ice and only go up to 14 max iirc. way too stressful
Dragon is only worth it during his purple phase, and even then it's only half as effective as fire or ice in the first phase. Just go with fire or ice.
But it would in case you can’t break the horn
well you would only really need to switch weapons if you don't break the horn which is way easier than getting the elemental knockdown for many weapons. I wanted farcasters to work so I could kill him with barrel bombs though. They didn't want people to do it before escaton because it's super telegraphed when he goes to the middle and blocking it out when he's just running towards the middle doesn't make sense even though it's technically part of the escaton animation chain
Alatreon IS fun but still objectively shit design, just like Behemoth.
I think Alatreon is objectively great design though. It did what it was supposed do in giving good players a fantastic fight and making bad players leave the game.
Ala might actually be one of the best monsters in MH history. He did exactly what he was supposed to do.
Fun?
Evade Extender
other than that the fight is fun
only complaint is needing to focus on the horns
arriving soon
His armor is a definsive godsend.
Put Water and Thunder Res 2. Eat two veggies:
Congrats. You’re immune to everything and have enough slots to murder everything.
When you stop being bad
Alatreon proved the people who play this game literally do not fucking read anything the game tells them nor read their Monster Guide Book.
does it really make a difference? everyone says defense doesn't make a difference for the hard shit you need it for
You have to understand that most people who come back for new content literally just do the bare minimum.
They poke the monster for 30 minutes, maybe cart a few times, and drop it again.
Alatreon is a giant middle finger to that. You have to learn tells and be good.
Kirin is filtering me hard in MR because I'm too retarded to read her moves
what do? I'm a LS main
that' pretty cool
tail looks really small though
"objectively shit design" is harsh but it is generally bad game design to take away player's options in a seemingly unfair manner (like Farcasters) or inflict seemingly harsh punishments upon them when they don't have a clear understanding of what exactly they have to do avoid them (like Escaton Judgement). The lack of health bars / status bars in MHW is what makes things like Escaton difficult to implement. Like how is a player supposed to know how close they were to triggering the element topple? I dunno
world bad
gen shit
4 lame
3 casual
2 clunky
1 fossil
MH unironically was never great.
When you replay Dragons Dogma instead
If there's one thing that bothers me it's how unaware many people are. Every time I play there are always a few people who either have literally no damage skills or are using some abomination safi awakened weapon with no coherence at all.
>her
Use a hammer
Isn’t LS literally the reading moves weapon? What with your counters and shit
what about this angle
>or inflict seemingly harsh punishments upon them when they don't have a clear understanding of what exactly they have to do avoid them
user you can't be serious. There is literally 3 warnings before you start the fight that using Raw weapons is a no go.
Then once you get into the fight the Team Leader basically tells you to use Elemental weapons.
"Not a clear understanding of how it works"? All you do is hit the monster like you've been doing.
>Like how is a player supposed to know how close they were to triggering the element topple?
You don't need to know. You hit the monster, and he falls down. It's an extremely generous threshold too.
You sound like a normies who got filtered during the great Shitter Explosion era of Ala.
circle around it and wait for openings to tenderize the body. usually it doesn't summon lightning directly under or behind it unless it's that one attack. or just use your 10000 foresight iframes. fighting at night can help as well because fuck how bright coral highlands is you can't see the lightning traces nearly as well
loved this little nigga in p3rd
hmmm yeah it still doesnt look right
it's just too stuby and thick relative to the body while not being as long
I like the colors though
Its the audience they appeal to now. The average player for modern loot games is a braindead retard, the fact it became available on all platforms and changed its design to appeal to newcomers sort of guaranteed a lot more of those newcomers will play the game
>Hit monster with Element
>This is somwhow a machavellian explanation of a concept that is just sooooooo hard to understand
>hunter use element
>no not THAT element
Because it came out (in the west at least) after World and was on a Nintendo console. That's it.
Valor is admittedly bullshit because it's basically always the best choice but I just ignored it because oils on normal SnS is so much fun.
Hard disagree. Forced elemental damage and an unavoidable nova with unavoidable damage which, let me remind people again, not even FRONTIER - the game CONSTANTLY LAMBASTED FOR BEING OVER-THE-TOP - had the gall to do. He's fun but I also recognize that they need to fuck off with this shit.
shit was known long before alatreon, join any random hunt and you'll see at least one person with irrelevant skills. The amount of times I've seen slugger on longsword or guard on greatsword...
The disconnect is where generally-raw-focused weapon users don't actually know if they're being effective until they get the topple for the first time. Literally all I would suggest they add is another dinky Handler voice line where she's like "YEAH KEEP DOING THAT HUNTER, YOUR ELEMENT IS EFFECTIVE" once you hit like 50% of the threshold. Then people wouldn't bitch so much about it. It also doesn't help that most people didn't assume they'd have the different element mods for each weapon type.
switch to spread hbg with shield
>"What the fuck? The game told me to use Element so I used my fire weapon and it doesn't do anything? You fight fire with fire, right? God, this game is so hard to understand sometimes."
First week Ala was so good.
I never check Equipment Lists because I know it would just make me mad.
>notice i'm tripping people against George
>people are fighting a Tempered Furious Rajang without Flinch Free
It defies belief.
>The disconnect is where generally-raw-focused weapon users don't actually know if they're being effective until they get the topple for the first time.
Field Hunter outright says Raw Weapons are not a good idea for this fight the second you hit the camp, and if you cart.
Not an excuse.
>forcing me to use elemental weapons
>forcing me to build elemental sets
>not just one, but two
fuck ala. i refuse to do him. i dont care if that makes me a grug, i dont give a fuck about elemental shit and never will.
>which, let me remind people again, not even FRONTIER - the game CONSTANTLY LAMBASTED FOR BEING OVER-THE-TOP - had the gall to do.
what the hell i ate a jerky and i recovered all of it back
If you're speedrunning record breaker level or if you have a teammate using max elemental dualblades/bow/lbg, sure.
You still have to beat him to fight Fatalis, though.