What the fuck am I reading?

What the fuck am I reading?

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The Thirty-Six Lessons of Vivec: Sermon Twenty-Seven

But it's all nonsense

>nonsense
Never go full retard, outlander.

Complete and utter guar shit. Try a good series like A Dance in Fire.

Oh so you read all 36 lessons and perfectly understood everything written without any outside help? Fucking doubt that dude.

if you're having a hard time with this op, you're gonna fucking love c0da

>Vivec being a bullshit artists no one respects
what a surprise

Ramblings of some random guy tripping his balls off.

every book in elder scrolls reads like this to me

holy shit whoever wrote this does not understand how commas work

>in game lore

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Most of the shit is allegories to events/factions in lore. The tribunal also are referred to their aspects, Sotha=Azura=Seht, Vivec=mephala=Veht, and Almalexia=Boethiah=Ayem. Also it's Vivec's revisionist history of why I am cooler than Neravar guys.

“Yoooo we live in a crazy world where tangible godhood and other powers are up for grabs and if you value or want these goodies then your morality should be consequentialist as a reflection.”

The Sermons are pretty amazing for what they represent and add to the lore, but you're not gonna understand them without a little outside help. I don't think anyone but Kirkbride himself fully "gets it". Finish the main quest then read about Vivec, the Tribunal, The Nerevarine Prophesy, and CHIM on UESP and /r/teslore.

You're seriously doing yourself a disservice by ignoring them if you care at all about Morrowind lore, you just need to go in with some basic understanding of what Vivec is as a mortal god and the concept of in-universe retconing/time travel.

dude just see the I lmao

>concept of in-universe retconing/time travel
As an addon to your post, I'd recommend starting in-game with "Where were you when the dragon broke?" you can find it easy enough in the Ald-ruhn mage's guild. I usually keep the lore reading to the game.

Over half of the mgq girls are just this, but as the years go by I find them less terrifying and more arousing.

Yeah I've been reading books as I come across them because I never did that when I was a teenager playing the Xbox version (god how did I even do that). I have like 8 of the sermons, and I feel like maybe if I read them in order it might make a little more sense, so that's what I'm doing now with wiki, and it still doesn't make sense. I feel like I need to just watch an analysis video or some shit to understand any of this.

youtube.com/watch?v=Ckp4VSoDbf0

This is probably the best video I've seen yet on Vivec. It's a little long but very much worth it if you have time.

I'd also recommend this to help anyone understand how Vivec fits in with the rest of the Tribunal Temple:
youtube.com/watch?v=Vqd6Smm6Vu4

They had you from the start, believe me. They just lured you in with the safe ones.

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anytime the sermons mention a spear or muatra it's actually literally talking about vivecs metaphysical dick

hope that helps

I'm not convinced Kirkbride totally gets it either considering all the drugs

> First
> Our ability to describe the world is limited by our physical bodies.

> Second
> External reality is incomprehensible and indescribable (almost Lovecraftian). We impose order through language and labels. Unfortunately, every language is inherently imperfect and the structures we choose are ultimately arbitrary in the larger universe.

> Third
> We're dragged down by our obsession to place everything into neat categories, even though reality is too chaotic and complex for that to happen. Accepting the impossibility of neat labels and categories places you above those who are trapped by their own obsession with labels.

It's all wrapped around a bunch of wordy bullshit but is Zig Forums too illiterate to understand this stuff? I'm worried about the zoomer generation's reading comprehension. No wonder everyone gets offended by everything or thinks everyone is stupid when they don't have the patience to dig through something this simple.

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Im the OP and definitely not a zoomer. I legit have poor reading comprehension and it's what a scored lowest on in my SAT's. English was also my worst subject and I fucking speak it, so how embarrassing is that? That said, I'm trying here man.

I think part of the problem is because it's in a video game you instinctively want to think of shit like "the Grabbers" and "the Chancellor of Exactitude" as random worldbuilding gibberish instead of analogies.

>my face after reading the trial of vivec

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haha funny god man makes gibberish books

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Ignore him, literally no one gets the Sermons the first time reading but it's really worth it to at least try and understand them. I'd also highly recommend the two videos that were posted earlier.

Ironically, it's a self-aware commentary on Eastern koans which are specifically designed to screw with our obsession with logic and discrete categories.

> Hogen of Seiryo monastery was about to lecture before dinner when he noticed that the bamboo screen lowered for meditation had not been rolled up. He pointed to it. Two monks arose from the audience and rolled it up.
> Hogen, observing the physical moment, said: "The state of the first monk is good, not that of the other."

> lol wut if both did exactly the same thing then why bother calling one good and one bad

> on using language to express logic and discrete categories

Forgot to mention language

>no one gets the Sermons the first time
Some never do.

>The monk asks the dog "how do i reach enlightenment?"
>The dog responds: "Mu"
>The monk was enlightened.
Seems pretty simple to me.

Re-reading this, you can totally understand that the main writer for this game was on a LSD trip when he wrote these books