At what age do you start introducing your kid to your favorite mature video games?

>letting your highly impressionable 9 year old son play an M rated game to "own the haters" while intentionally presenting him with a charged narrative
quality parenting

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A lot of the criticism hurled towards TLOU2 is fucking stupid and rooted in misogyny, though.

If you dont want retards talking like this, maybe dont give them ammo.

Why I had to read that retarded thing my god

Honestly depends on the games story and how its presented. A lot of people played the PS2 GTA games as kids even though they were for adults cause the violence in the game is presented as really unrealistic and the stories are very tropey and comedic. For stuff like TLOU with more serious stories and violence I'd wait until they're at least 13 or 14 to let them play it as they'd actually be able to handle these more grounded stories and visuals.

This screams of fake. No normal 9 year old would give a shit about social issues like diversity, or have any legitimate emotions to hearing a video game has "toxic criticisms".
If anything it was probably simple-worded yes or no questions that the dad asked, and then twisted to make it look like it was the kid's own perspective.
All I see here is evidence of a man-child indoctrinating a young child into opinions and beliefs while still impressionable, rather than teaching them how to formulate their own based on facts and observation.
Having kids should require a license and psych evaluation. Too much garbage in all directions.

Ironically by neglecting his kid's development, life will be the child's teacher, and he'll probably end up better than his father.

Life finds a way :)

>If anything it was probably simple-worded yes or no questions that the dad asked, and then twisted to make it look like it was the kid's own perspective.
we'd be fortunate if that was even attempted but the odds are that person never had anything resembling that conversation

>No normal 9 year old would give a shit about social issues like diversity, or have any legitimate emotions to hearing a video game has "toxic criticisms".
He probably just bullshitted his kid about people who don't like the game just "want everybody to be the same!" while not actually explaining in detail what he means by that so he can manipulate his kid's thoughts for brownie points on the internet.

Here's the situation
>wife and I just had our first child
>I've been collecting retro games since I was 12, have almost every NES, SNES, N64, and GameCube game worth having alongside a hacked Wii U, hacked 3DS, and Switch
>wife has a PS4 and wants the PS5, both of us interested in investing in a gaming PC with VR
Do I introduce my kids to games I liked or just let them run with what's popular? I have zero interest in forcing my interests on kids but I don't want them to feel like I'm not engaging with them.
My dad was a long distance trucker when I was growing up so I genuinely have no idea what fathers are meant to do.
I also purchase the monthly membership to the arcade a few blocks from the house which has about 40ish pinball machines, and will probably purchased one by the time we have a second kid.
Please help. I'm into fringe stuff like Space Station 13 and pinball or just Nintendo first parties, my wife is into Doom, Dead Space, Halo, ect.

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I'm never having a kid, but if I were to ever have one he'd start with an Atari, then a console of his choice of the next generation every two years.

My dad wasn't really into gaming, but he did try to get me into his other interests like cars, football, etc, I think you should just show your kids what you like but don't force them into it.
Btw pro tip as a father reading to your kid when its young is probably the greatest thing you can do for them, it's known to increase your child's vocabulary in life substantially, and it's only the father that can do this.

I've got about 600+ books in the house and about two totes of kid's books because I'm a teacher, thanks for reinforcing this to me
I know even having a newspaper at breakfast is huge for kids

my dad circumvented this by hitting me with a belt if I slacked on my personal reading

Let the kid go free until you gotta straighten them out when they come to the wrong conclusion about something then send them back on their way. It'll be better to give them a history lesson on something they're interested in but obviously only has enough information to make them dangerous rather than trying to push

>Implying the kid wouldn't get bored of all the walking and cutscenes and ask his dad if they can play Minecraft instead

I Think it's good that your kid experience the retro stuff first, don't give him some obscure shit, simple games like a handheld kirby or some 2D zeldas and then let him explore your game collection from there. The only downside is that he will be playing some old games while his friends would be playing some of the new stuff, which might make your son not fit in, so idk.

there is no way his kid is like this, also his kid is 9 and this game is shit, atleast let him play doom

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Anything Nintendo is a good bet to start with lego games are also good but they teach your kids to be lazy when gaming lol, show them many easy colorful games and let them decide, ask what they want to play, make sure to let them know that it is ok to fail / die / etc. at first and that they can get better with practice.
Gaming is great and all but spend time bonding playing in real life, playing with balls, building, dolls / action figures, etc and set some limits, only game after behaving correctly, only playing a healthy amount of time each day.

Well, I have to admit, forcing your kid to play TLoU 2 is a creative form of punishment.

Letting your kid play this murder simulator means you are a shitty failed parent

I'm one of those kids. Mom was bi-polar/narcissistic, dad was mostly absent until I moved in during my teens and didn't know what the hell to do with raising a kid.
I fucking wish I had competent parents. Life is the cruelest teacher there is, every lesson is learned the hardest way possible and at your lowest moments you don't even have the emotional safety net of a parent's unconditional love.
If thats the future this kid has, I really do pity him.

angry joe never once criticizes the SJW or politics of the game though, his issues are primarily with Joel dying and not liking abby...

he'd probably not want to play video games ever again after the atari, unless one of his school friends showed him fortnite. assuming you didn't hex him with autism and he could actually make friends

My autism would make me the worst dad in the world, like I said I don't want kids, I know I'd just torture them.

I'm going to pretend like I hate video games and only play them in my office when the child is asleep.

Actually they will if the parents are just constantly teaching them that. They won't sincerely hold the position or understand what they're saying but they will 100% parrot it, I have seen this with a myriad of topics from children of friends/family saying the same stupid shit their parents believe

I'm making sure my son learns how to read/speak japanese so he can experience monobeno, unteralbach and other VNs as intended.

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Was that before or after everyone stood up and clapped?

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