>Good competition >cutting deals with different publishers to offer more content for less money, a better deal for customers >ie: EA Play free for Gamepass Ultimate owners >EA Play is still available on every other platform, even Steam >the deal Phil signed just make the service better on his platform, but it does not prohibit the service on others
>Bad competition >pay devs the supposed first year of revenue no matter how the game performs, while maintaining the game exclusive to that platform >prohibit the game from being on every other platform/retailer during that period >the dev is happy because they get money even if the game bombs >the retailer believes the exclusivity will drive more people to the platform (questionable) >the audience of every other platform is pissed >the fanbase is basically obliged to buy in a specific store because of the deal >ie: Hitman 3 epic exclusive for a year
>300+ games for $15 a month on console+PC+cloud >you can basically play games whenever and wherever you want it's all about choice and offering a better return for your investment some will still believe ownership is better, and ofc you can buy the games too
>>the deal Phil signed just make the service better on his platform, but it does not prohibit the service on others I feel this is the most important point. Choice is king and restricting choice with exclusives only creates bitterness.
Lucas Evans
shut the fuck up brainfart and make games, tim in the meantime actual does something
Benjamin Clark
>you have to pay a set price (with no competition, so it won't come cheaper) to play Hitman 3 in a specific store during an entire year >if you want hitman on other platform, because you have your entire collection there, wait a year >if you like the PC platform because it is all about choice, tough luck with this game >it is effectively an artificial monopoly on specific titles meanwhile the guy tries to lead a revolution against phone monopolies
You're right. Crying on Twitter about your dead lawsuit is "something".
Lincoln Williams
He's literally a chinese pawn to disrupt western business.
Dominic Cooper
>crying you mean winning dumb brainfart even phil is now sucking tims huge cock
Michael Mitchell
The fact that I can't transfer my previous progress into the next game alone is more than enough reason not to bother with the third game. I hope IOI at least got some decent money out of the entire thing. Guess I'll just buy it at a -75% sale years down the line.
Christian Robinson
>the phone monopoly this guy critiques is just paying 30% for using the store and the distribution system the platform provides >if the provider wants to restrict who puts a store on their platform, then this guy believes this is a monopoly >the platform provides true value, like a distribution service, secure transactions, and a secure platform meanwhile this guy creates an artificial monopoly with specific games while providing zero extra value. the game is exactly the same as will be on the other platforms, and worst of all, the services he provides are basically nonexistent, aka no community, no shopping cart, no mods, no marketplace,.... He is literally creating micro-monopolies while offering no extra value to consumers
The most incredible argument that fuck brings forward is his muh 30%. Apparently abolishing it is going to help the users in some way. I guess it works for his iOS marketing trick, but I'm sure he'll just up the price on skins in-game eventually. As for the games on his store, you get nothing from it as they're the same price as on any other platform, or even more expensive depending on your location and payment processor. Suddenly, trickle down economics is supposed to work, even though it didn't for over a decade now, despite all the publishers shilling the "we have to add microtransactions to everything so we can make better games :^)" thing.
Lincoln Price
he probably wants to debut an epic store in ios, packed to the brim with chink clones of games that's what you get from all the chink money
Angel Campbell
>he probably wants to debut an epic store in ios, packed to the brim with chink clones of games He has admitted as much. He also wants Apple to host the Epic App Store.
>>pay devs the supposed first year of revenue no matter how the game performs, while maintaining the game exclusive to that platform Uh... how exactly do you think Microsoft secured timed exclusivity of games like The Medium, Scorn, and STALKER 2?
Ryan King
>Game is available on Steam exclusively, no GOG or EGS or Origin release >It's okay >Game is an Epic Store exlusive >steamies flip their shit Cringe
Ayden Hall
>The fact that I can't transfer my previous progress into the next game alone is more than enough reason not to bother with the third game. Hitman 2 progression carries over, though.
Caleb Walker
what exclusivity? they are coming to the windows store, steam and every other key seller at least the medium and scorn I don´t know about stalker2
Oliver Cooper
Their facial appearances make me want to bully the fucking shit out of them, especially Tim. Being that ugly should be a crime.
Jace Myers
>Game is available on Steam exclusively there is no "exclusively" on steam, because Steam provides a way to sell keys for the platform, so that there is competition and cheaper prices
Kevin Cooper
Based Phil.
Still salty I have to wait another year to play Hitman 3.
Jonathan Cook
Key that you have to activate on Steam
Jackson Jackson
steam gets zero profit from that purchase they are literally providing a service for free on external purchases and the added value of steam is why the dev is releasing the game there
Why do you think they take to cut off keys dumbass So that people install Steam and get attached. And it's still Steam exclusive and there are still Steam exclusive games.
Isaiah Ramirez
accept defeat, mate it's not that big of a deal devs prefer steam because the service is superb and they can sell the keys everywhere devs on epic are just bribed for a year
Christian Green
there is a difference between exclusivity and choice steam is the defacto standard because it is the best store right now. and no, EGS does not provide the same services, they just buy exclusives to their platform with chink money
Evan Brooks
They're specifically not releasing on PS4/PS5.
Nathaniel Wright
technically, they win a new customer/steam user.
Hunter Moore
>meanwhile the guy tries to lead a revolution against phone monopolies He was just in for the gachas money nothing else nothing more
go ask them. i don't know the deal they have, but it is obviously not the same as Tim kidnapping games from other stores tell me why Fall Guys is not on xbox and it was free on PSN. I have not heard this being a exclusivity contract at all
Kayden Turner
but that is a devs choice, not an imposed purchase
John Sullivan
epic shills went from ignoring the thread to trying to slide it
Oh yes, I agree. My point was that it's a smart move from valve since you get a new potential customer and also give the devs more choices with their product
Samuel Davis
Absolutely, and I am afraid that if steam ends up in a bad situation, the first thing they will remove is free limitless key generation ie: Nintendo charges for every key you generate in the store
