Combat is bad- >Enemies are always in your face, interrupting your actions and knocking you back. There's no good way to avoid this, because the dodge roll is useless. Party AI doesn't do anything, and ATB gauge doesn't fill on its own, causing you to have to spam attack, to fill it manually every time you switch characters. Flying enemies are hard to deal with
Pacing is bad- >This is a 15 hour game, stretched out into 30 hours. Boring fetch and kill quests, and drawn out sections involving fighting ghosts in the train graveyard, and finding a locket for some faggot, stop all forward momentum. Square said they were 'expanding' Midgar. This was a lie.
Level design is bad- >Having an occasional hub where you can do fetch quests, doesn't change the fact that this is just another hallway simulator. Dungeons are padded out with stupid shit like fixing sun lamps.
Character animations and dialogue are bad- >Anime style, exaggerated character mannerisms don't work in a game that uses photorealistic character models. It feels awkward and unnatural. The dialogue is the usual Square-Enix word vomit nonsense about fate and destiny.
Story is bad- >We thought we were getting a remake, only to be bait-switched and find out it's actually a sequel involving time traveling ghosts trying to preserve the timeline...or something stupid like that. The mystery around Sephiroth is killed by having him shoved in your face every 5 minutes. Iconic scenes from the original, like the dropping of the plate, and the blood trail in Shinra HQ are utterly ruined. And it all culminates in a garbage Kingdom Hearts style finale.
Everything else bad- >Low quality textures and NPC models. Audio mixing is fucked up, causing the music to drown out the dialogue. Forced slow walking. Classic mode is locked on easy. I could go on.
These are the many reasons why FFVII:Remake is a terrible game. Now I challenge anyone to give some reasons why you think it's good other than "I LiKe To FaP tO TiFa!!".
its defintely not as good as it could have been. But its not that bad.
Ian Torres
Learn to parry nigger
Ethan Edwards
>Combat is bad-
It absolutely better than the original in every meaningful way.
>Enemies are always in your face, interrupting your actions and knocking you back.
This is deliberate, in the original turn based game, enemies attack you and leave you no opportunity to dodge. The remake gives you way more defensive options, but is still designed with the expectation that you won't be able to flawlessly avoid damage and will still have to use the ATB system to heal and use tactical abilities/party member switching effectively in order to play well. The combat is mostly as good as could be expected given that it's based around a party ATB system where the player's decisions are what matters and I'm glad it commits to that, it just needs tweaking.
>Story is bad-
Yep, this is actualy stupid and Nomura deserve a paddling. They could have simple allowed the player more freedom of choice without having to artificially justify it with this whole "defying fate" bullshit which only fucks over the integrity of the story.
Joshua Fisher
They ruined Sephiroth, for starters. They had to keep reminding you that Sephiroth made by SquareEnix and Nomura was in the game, at every odd hour, you had to be reminded about this fact.
In my head I was picturing how they were gonna do the Shinra HQ massacre with generation of graphical power. Just thinking about the ominous cell release with nothing but bodies and blood lying around the building, floor by floor, leading up to the Shinra President's suite. You walk and see him impaled, see the back of what should be a dead man, but it was Sephiroth, and then having to deal with the fallout. Just a surreal moment, that's all I was thinking about. They could've captured this.
Instead you get whacky JENOVA fight out of fucking nowhere. Sephiroth just floating outside the building like it's a Simpsons gig. They crammed as much as they could, even if it made no sense, because why the fuck not. How could anyone eat up all these changes and think it was a good game? The fucking overworld theme of FF7 plays in the Midgar slums, as opposed to after the Midgar escape. All the pent up emotions you've had through Midgar get unleashed by the triumphant overworld theme relaxing you as you leave the ongrail confines of the tutorial act of FF7. FF7 Remake just dumps that overworld theme like it doesn't give a fuck.
Soulless remake. Absolutely hate it. Fuck the zoomers who bought it and fuck the retarded boomers who think these artistic changes are legit. Watch the Midgar Zolom that was supposed to be impaled by Sephiroth letting you know the drastic differences in power between you and him be alive and in Episode 2, just to do a quick time event dodge sequence before you enter the caves. And yes, I know it's Sephiroth controlling Jenova's body parts masquerading as himself to make them think he's alive. You don't have to remind me, it's why Sephiroth shouldn't had been used so much in Episode 1. You're supposed to question if he's truly alive or not.
Seethe more Barry, combat was amazing while retaining as many elements of turn based JRPG as possible
Dominic Bailey
>Combat is bad Git gud, learn to switch characters to fill up ATB, some attacks can't be dodged, some attacks can't be blocked, welcome to hybrid action/atb. Tifa/Barret/Aerith make aerial enemies look like a joke, use magic with Cloud >Pacing is bad Yeah, it kinda drags on if you do sidequests, although there's some great fights if you do, pretty good reward I'd say. >Level design is bad I disagree on everything except sector 5-6 section >Character animations and dialogue are bad In what world are the characters photo realistic ?? Play in Japanese if you don't want cringe english localization. Although most of the character interactions are pretty fucking good and true to the original. >Story is bad Can't really tell in the current state, gotta wait for part 2. I enjoyed the changes, if I wanted the original story, I'd play the original. >Everything else bad low quality textures/Forced slow walking are engine & hardware not working well together and hidden load times. NPC models, yeah pretty lazy. Audio mixing can be changed. Classic mode is an insult.
Overall, it's a pretty good game.
William Perez
This one actually isn't nomura's fault, it was one of the other directors who wanted Sephiroth in early.
Luis Gray
I liked it.
Maybe you should get some help or something if you’re having problems with people who enjoy the game.
>if I wanted the original story, I'd play the original. fuck off with that, if i wanted a sequel i would have asked for a sequel, not a remake
Brandon Long
>Combat is bad Stopped right there
Nicholas Butler
>if I wanted the original story, I'd play the original. That's fair. I personally wanted a new story too. But the new story is garbage. I wanted a new good story. Something being different isn't good in and of itself, I want it to be different - and good. I can't just say "well at least it's different" but if that's how low your bar is, then that's nice for you.
Ian Ward
I can't fucking wait to play as all the other characters you have no idea.
Colton Smith
>fault you're slipping
Michael Adams
Imagine having expectations for a AAA single player Square Enix game post 2006
Leo Jenkins
Taking the term "Remake" further than just the game itself, but the timeline within the game, is a pretty interesting concept. So far it's intriguing, I said that I enjoyed it, doesn't mean it's good or bad. I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt and wait for part 2 to pass judgement. I'm expecting a disaster, but who knows.
Landon Brown
I can let everything in this remake slide apart from the butchered story at the end and the false premise of Midgar being 'expanded'. I realise open-world design is a meme but having the entire city of Midgar as a backdrop is a chance they so utterly wasted.
Zachary Campbell
mash square to win
Jason Martin
Combat was the one of the few things I liked about it, and it's still not great thanks to the camera and how it's easy for stuff in the foreground to obscure the action. Almost everything else is objectively low quality compared to other AAA games. You can tell they desperately outsourced to Malaysia. As for the story, I didn't expect a carbon copy of the original, but that doesn't excuse the inferior storytelling. The original game doesn't require outside media to appreciate the story; it's self-contained, whereas the remake is explicitly contributing to the compilation mess. I doubt many newcomers truly grasp what it was about. Though, I'll admit the same applies to fans of the original FF7 as well
even though I spent 45 hours in midgar I didn't feel like I got to do anything or truly explore it. the only new area was jessie's house (and you didn't really get the explore, you're on a railroad the whole time, even when walking) and the only new thing I did was... darts?
I'd have loved a 45 hour midgar game if there was actual variation in what you do and see, but there wasn't, really. you can play the original and see an entire world in 45 hours, and snowboard and drive a submarine and play an RTS and fly the highwind and breed chocobos and all kinds of stuff
Luis Morris
>Pacing is bad The pacing is the same as the original game.
The sun lamps and the walk to the reactor isnt the walk to the reactor from the origianl. Is the world map travelling and those 15 hours of slow travelling. I would argue that the plate fall is that "aerith death" moment.
Xavier Powell
>In my head I was picturing how they were gonna do the Shinra HQ massacre with generation of graphical power. it's a fucking crime how badly they fucked this up in 7R.
>hurrr read my college thesis on why I think game bad
You either like it or you didn't. If you didn't like the game, it doesn't mean it's bad. Simple as. I had a great time with it. >hurrr you eat shit What game did you like so I can say you like eating shit as well.
I know critical thinking is hard for zoomers, but please at least make an attempt. Otherwise the rest of FF7 Remake compilation will just be this but much much worse.
Leo King
>Enemies are always in your face, interrupting your actions and knocking you back. Enemies always target the character you're controlling. If you really need a heal or high-level magic attack to go off then control a different character before you issue the command.
>There's no good way to avoid this, because the dodge roll is useless. The dodge roll is for dodging, not for magically becoming invincible for half a second. Block the attack and don't chimp out over some tiny amount of chip damage.
>Party AI doesn't do anything, and ATB gauge doesn't fill on its own Almost as if the combat is designed around making you switch between and control all three characters constantly instead of just focusing on one.
>causing you to have to spam attack, to fill it manually every time you switch characters. Spamming attack will get you interrupted and punished.
>Flying enemies are hard to deal with Sure, if you try to brute force your way through them instead of figuring out the correct solution. Cast Wind with a non-controlled character while melee attacking with your controlled character so that the enemy holds still long enough for Wind to go off. Then they're Pressured and you can rapidly build up their stagger.
If I had to guess I'd say Dark Souls has broken your brain to the point where you think you have to have magical invincibility cartwheels for an ARPG combat system to be good. The actual criticism to make of FF7R's combat system is that you have to gear up correctly for every fight ahead of time or it becomes a slog. You can't improvise on the fly and that's something I hope they improve for part 2.
Your other criticisms are a mixture of opinion and mostly correct. The under plate section was just bad, I'm not going to defend that.
Juan Robinson
>It absolutely better than the original in every meaningful way. That doesn't make it good. Every gook MMO has better combat than FFVIIR
Camden Reyes
That would be awesome if they actually committed to going through the whole game without ever showing Sephiroth.
Andrew Bell
I'm at Wall Market and about to see Aerith in her new outfit and I'll say this. I find myself losing interest in the game often. Sometimes I'll get the urge to play it and play it for a few hours. But then I won't come back to it for a few days. I'm just not all that compelled to keep going.
I didn't have this experience with FFXIII or FFXV. I did kind of have this experience with FFXIII-2. I rather disliked that game. Same with Type-0 HD.
Landon Wright
it doesnt feel like the original they ruined some aspects of characters sephiroth is totally just a weirdo not scary at all but actually comes across gay for cloud tifa just is some weird anime idol at times with her stupid fucking gestures it doesnt help that the slums of midgar look like total ass the combat is alright but i wish if they were doing pseudo action (or whatever the fuck you wanna call it), they should've given cloud a bigger moveset to work with and being able to JUMP i think the music is the best part of this project and the episodic format really pisses me off too but lets not even start on the fact of the absolute bizarre timeline fuckery going on
Christopher Wood
>Spamming attack will get you interrupted and punished.
But that's exactly the problem. Because the ATB gauge doesn't fill on its own, you HAVE to spam attack to fill it before you can do an ability. On each character. It's fucking stupid.
