TLOU:2 gets shit on for talking about the circle of violence and how revenge fucks you up

yes

I grinded snakes and did the path with the casino. feeling kinda bored of the whole thing. Wish it was just walking sim instead of rpg and random shit.

Game is fun
Lovable characters that you actually feel bad about killing
Brad goes full way and it fires back, Ellie backs out and she still gets fucked.

>You can have these deep and complex characters going trough real struggles
>Or these meme guys that have 5 lines MAX
Of course shitters aim for the simpler thing
it's a mediocre RPG at best

What the fuck am I saying?

I remember a lot of people thinking Buddy was a shitty character after Joyful.

Deep and complex my ass.

brad didn't stop after buddy was kidnapped and let them fuck her, and actually beat the shit out of everyone

compared to all the other females (none) i'd say she's pretty cute

>TLOU2 made by juice
>Lisa not made by juice
there, now you know

I never really liked buddy and only grew in disdain as the game/s went on. If the dev intentionally wrote her to be the most unlikable naive shit headed brat ever on purpose then hats off to him.

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yeah, you weren't supposed to like her by the middle of joyful.

fuck the joyful

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I'm not even against Ellie letting Abby go but they didn't even come up with a solid reason. Joel plucking his guitar is vague and unsatisfying, Lev should have begged for Abby's life just as Ellie did for Joel and gives Ellie a change of heart, it would at least make sense.

Boom. You just fixed the fucking ending.

But Buddy doesn't regret her revenge, she regretted that she treated her dad and brother like shit. They gave their lives for her but she was so full of hate that she didn't appreciate it.

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The entire trip through it is both funny and interesting. Short enough to finish in a day but enough hidden secrets to last a few playthroughs. Characters are shitty and busted but likeable. TLOU2 had none of these.

Because it's quriky and different and not like the other games. It's shit.

TLOU had an entire team and proper writers, so it has REAL gameplay and real depth behind everything, instead of just one dude half assing it on his way out

Shouldn't have tried making a game around a movie, since people complain about it becoming repetitive two hours in the most. LISA has the same problem, but RPG Maker fights are usually just team composition and item checks to make sure you have a double digit IQ.

Because we were happily complicit in the Bradinators actions. FUCK everyone who got in the way of Brad and his little buddy numnums. It got hard sometimes, but that single minded devotion to getting buddy back was all we needed to push past the painful. In the end, when Brad asks "Did I do the right thing?" he isn't asking Buddy, because he already knows to her he didnt do shit right. He did everything as wrong as he possibly could have, even before she got kidnapped, but he did the right thing to himself, He saved his little buddy.

Ellie does nothing right, we're forced to play as some roided up man lady in the second act (similar to playing buddy and not being complacent in her bullshit but at least she had the excuse of literally being joyed out of her ass) and we get zero payoff in the end. It amounted to nothing. Brad and Buddy at least successfully murdered EVERYONE they wanted to.

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>Torture porn is character development

Because TLOU2 didn't have SATAN and BIG LINCOLN

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because lisa has well written characters that we can connect with, the last of us only had joel and ellie and then they killed off ellie as a character for muh trolley problem answer is right and yours isn't.

that's not why tlou gets shit on

Baby politics.

>You have to know this Buddy. I was completely lost before I found you. You made me feel things I'd never felt before... You showed me what love really is. And that's why when I look into your eyes, it's the scariest feeling in the world. It's why I buried myself so deep into the darkness. But, I promise you, I tried so hard to fight it. I tried. And no matter what, I really did love you with all my heart. I'm so sorry I failed you, Buddy. I miss you so much.
Brad didn't deserve it.

Who was in the wrong here?

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>The lights come on
I was rock hard

>Reads bottom to top, left to right
Horrible formatting

Was he a good boy?

I ain't fixing Steam's shitty format for a shitpost

because lisa actually has a good narrative going on for it

>>TLOU:2 gets shit on for talking about the circle of violence and how revenge fucks you up
rightfully.
Abby could have ended muh cycle of revenge by simply killing Ellie and Tommy who were obviously dangerous.
Also Ellie could have ended muh cycle of revenge by simply killing Abby and Lev but muh Joel memories.
retarded writing.