For me, it's Bayonetta 2, the greatest action game of all time

For me, it's Bayonetta 2, the greatest action game of all time.

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1 is better when it comes to actual gameplay and score chasing.

This game is such an improvement on the first one it’s insane. I kept on seeing it shat on here and thought it was ass. Finally played it and learned to never listen to v again.

In case anyone else was fooled the only reason this game is shat on here is because it’s Nintendo exclusive. That’s it. Everything in this is better than the original

me too

Bayo 2 is the better experience overall but i agree
Also why was Kamiya salty about the crescent moon in 2?

Bayo 1 is better by literally every metric.
2 is still worth playing because it has unique weapons and abilities, but 1 is leagues better overall.

1 is almost ruined by QTE bullshit and janky sections, especially the part on the bike that controls like ass

>by literally every metric
>except graphics and menu design

>Enemies don't stagger on normal
>Enemy attacks are virtually the same whether or not they've been taunted
>Two assfuck huge hammer weapons you have to charge to use effectively and are so clunky and slow as to be almost useless
>Whips, again, but now they go on your feet
>Literally half the length of the original, with like 2 non-repeating bossfights
>Final boss is a fart in the wind
>No new accessories
>Accessories don't matter
>Literally added Devil Trigger
>And now you can swim underwater so the devs can insert filler segments into the game without having to test and balance combat encounters
It sure looks pretty though.
All this is not to say it's terrible. It was probably the best WiiU game, and it's one of the better Nintendo-Published titles on the Switch, but it's definitely a disappointment if you come into it straight from the first game.

Bike section is fine, even the space harrier section is fine, the only problem with that one is that it's too long
If you want to see bullshit sections, you'd need to take a look at W101

What are you, a writer for IGN?

PC port when?

never played w101 but the bike section was legitimately awful, including the bike literally clipping through the fucking road into the void at one point. This happened to me multiple times. It controls like absolute dogshit too, and yes the space harrier segments drags on for far too long to the point it becomes a grind, but it's at least functional and somewhat fun.

1 was a complete pain in the ass to replay with all the stupid cinematic qte segments and shitty platforming and cutscenes interrupting gameplay

DMC3SE is still my favorite action game. Bayo 1 and 2 are up there though.

Well i never had something like that happen to me, i like the bike section more because it's just a simple sequence breaker and the track is completely great
Based

Really I want Ninja Gaiden to come back, I miss that series a lot. I think if Bayonetta 3 takes the good from Bayo 1 and keeps all the QoL from Bayo 2 then maybe it'll be the GOAT.

>Dial a combo
Na, I wish Kamiya would just fucking drop that shit system already.

it happened to me 2 or 3 times on a part of the road that sloped upwards, the bike clipped through the seam.

Bayo 2 is a pile of shit but it's loved by casuals. It destroyed a functional game and replaced it with over the top visuals. youtube.com/watch?v=6jIQkohrSvQ

Bayo 1 had lots of flaws. It's mini games were especially bad but Bayo 2 is straight up broken and forces you to do the exact same thing over and over with different particle effects.

nobody on Zig Forums is good enough at bayonetta for this to matter

Could you explain what that means?

W101's combat is fucking amazing, honestly my favorite in any platinum game. Except like 20% of the game is stupid bullshit that honestly makes it a slog to replay. It's a 9/10 game with forced 3/10 sections. In the final chapter of the game you play a shitty on rails shooter for 70%, and play the game part of the game for like 30%.

>Enemies not being juggable and staggering during anything but witch time doesn't effect people
What planet are you on retard? Anything but small enemies force witch time which makes the gameplay bland as fuck.

most enemies in 2 can be juggled though

Medium and larger enemies can't be juggled or comboed outside of witch time. Fucking retard. Did you even play the game? There's even a video showing examples of how it worked in 1 and how it doesn't work in 2 right in the post.

which isn't most enemies, most enemies in the game can be juggled

Meaningless buzzword and not even present in TW101.

Fucking hell this heaven ticket costs too much

>LIFE OR DEATH QTE’S

Something that can easily be remembers on repeat playthroughs, and there's only like fucking 3 in the entire game. You faggots constantly cry about this shit but it's a non-issue if you're actually good and replaying the game. I'll take a million instant death QTEs over 2's shitty umbran climax mechanics that break the game and ruin it.

It is worse mechanically, but like said, it's just a better experience overall. Sure, the combat system shows a ton of flaws at higher difficulties, but until then the game's a rocket ride of fun, with fewer minigames than 1.