What made you lose faith in gaming?

Unironically, Twitter. Seen too many devs over the past decade deflect genuine criticism with talks about racism or homophobia or something, and then go on and on about how they don't make games for straight white men. I don't know what any of that has to do with broken spawn points, but whatever. Anyway, because of that, I lost the ability to look at a game as designed for my enjoyment, and mostly see things through the lens of being made by people who don't even enjoy games for the sole purpose of maximizing the profit they earn from me.

Another part to that is a lot of big names in the industry have just sort of revealed themselves to be complete hacks. So many people have tried to have their "glorious return" only to spend their time arguing with people on Twitter and proving that they can't design anything. I can't play X-Com: UFO Defense without thinking about all of the forgotten employees at Microprose that actually made it good, like the producer who rejected the game and demanded there be a strategic layer, while Gollop is out making his Nth X-Com clone flop. It's made me pretty jaded to see a dozen people I used to respect turn out to just not have any real talent.

>art reduced to personal expression
huh

Art IS objective, you're just mad Renaissance masterpieces will always be revered over your abstract/tranny dogshit

>Art IS objective
What objective measures do you have to prove the "goodness" of a creative artifact?
What is your personal definition of art?

Friendly reminder that art plays with human psychology, which is derived from evolutionary pressures, and its quality can therefore conceptually be objectively measured.

AAA. Take the indie or AA pill.

DLC, IAP, QTEs, mass casualization, mass adoption, movie games, e-sports, trails to quest markers and bright green racing lines, the replacement of skeuomorphism with flat design, uncreative developers pumping out trite pixel shit, stupid players getting progressively more stupid every year, neomarxist infiltration and subsummation of the 'woke' agenda, every developer I loved getting bought-out by grabblers who hate games, games as education, games as art, monetization of mods, sex for ratings journalism, women intruding on male spaces, the consequent lack of pretty female characters, the consequent addition of unrealistic mary sue characters who appeal to the female fantasy, and 100+ more things.
fuck vidya.

When gamergate failed

BOTW came out in 2017 and DMC5 in 2019. They were like the best games in 10 years

fuck twitter, full of trannies and simp

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Whatever triggers your tranny sensibilities is art. Art is objectively good if every normal person likes it. Art is subjective means:
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE BEST ART CANT HAVE BEEN PRODUCED BY STRAIGHT WHITE CIS FUCKING MALES, WE NEED MORE TRANNY NIGGER TRAVESTIES INSTEAD!!!!!

Do you have a non-meme answer?

Games are still good.
Recently finished Return to Obra Dinn and I'm deep into Hades now.

Honestly these are 2 of the best games ever made. We are in a very good spot now. It feels like the only games that matter to you are the consoomer games with TV spots, but the good stuff is still around.

This. 100%. Something that could easily be fixed but never will be.

Explain how the answer is a ""meme"" without using neomarxist buzzwords.

not him, but that's a cope-out retort and you should feel bad
if you can't respond to what he said, then you just lost the debate

Why don't christchuds like brown muslim women? Because they're actual tradwives unlike wh*te whores?

modern art is shit
slave away in a fucking workshop with a hammer and a chisel and a block of marble for a month, and then it might be art
fill twenty jerry cans with piss across a one year period and display it in a public place for the whole year, that's not art, you should be locked up or gassed for even thinking it is

I don't think they care about them until they join in with the other white-male-bashing pc thug neomarxists and start preaching hate against their host nation
looking at you, ilhan omar

>Complains about buzzwords.
>Uses "tranny" do describe anyone who disagrees with you.
lol

when 90% of the industry is "FPS with a gimmick". and half those gimmicks are "cinematic experience"

it's called freedom of speech, bitch

When your definition of quality includes "tranny sensibilities" and "normal person", it is by definition a meme answer.
I don't want to win debates where all I get is meme answers. I happily concede any debate that doesn't help me grow as a person.
So you can measure art by seeing how much work has been poured into it? That seems highly arbitrary, and you probably wouldn't agree with your own definition, considering that some pieces of modern art take weeks to finish.

The fact that good art is remembered over bad art proves the objectivity of art.

Those are two examples of art you posted. You do know that modern art is just *more* than the example you posted right? I mean there's digital art EVERYWHERE these days, I'd count that as modern art. I'm even willing to bet that you and a lot of other people follow and even support artists you like on patreon, twitter, etc. There's a lot of shit out there, nobody's denying that but there's a lot of good modern art as well due to the sheer volume of it thanks to ease of accesibility and how readily available information to learn is.

When the industry started doing remakes and everyone called them out for being lazy, unimaginative faggots, the industry responded by making remasters instead and everyone started looking forward to paying for games they already own.
When F2P monitization practices became standard not only in P2P MMOs, but single player games as well.
When selling a 5 dollar recolor skin went from
>5 dollars for a skin? this is fucking bullshit
to
>Only 5 dollars for a legendary extra rare skin?!?!?!?
What else?
I guess
>Early Access
>Open World
>Crafting
>Survival
also was one.
I guess when people tried to tell me EA ain't that bad, I couldn't tell if it was shills or actual people.

That seems arbitrary, rather than objective.
I find all appeals to universal opinion meaningless. Would you then say that popular games can only be good and non-popular games only bad?

>lol
another cop-out answer?

just answer him if you're able, because right now you're conceding the point and making a fool of yourself doing it

it's pathetic

accurate as fuck

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We're not gonna stop using words that trigger you, cry more. Tranny "women" are men.
>When your definition of quality includes "tranny sensibilities" and "normal person", it is by definition a meme answer.
Why? Are you denying that trannies openly and brazenly want to destroy anything associated with white men? Are you trying to imply "normal people" don't exist so you can try to normalize your insane """"""genderfluid""""" garbage and erase straight white cis men in the process, thus defeating your point?

I don't care about all of that. I want to talk about art, not about transgenderism or normality.