Are video games art?

It's a combination of artistic works and technological advancement. It is, not in itself an art.

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This is like, what if the based department was a meme from 2010

Everything made with the intent to pass a feeling is art.
But the question is, is it good art or bad art?

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video games have a lot of art in them: graphics, sound, story. Out of the three I listed, graphics is the only essential one, otherwise it couldn't be a video game as there would be nothing to display.

the logic/system behind the graphics is the other essential thing. how many ways are there to systematize amusement/entertainment within the constraints of what makes a video game? is this considered an art? i dunno. you can kind of argue that anything is an art. i think this part is artistic when you come up with something new.

i don't mean to be wordy and i probably sounds like a retard, but i think what I said can be understood

shut up

Art or not, 15 years ago when I bought Mor I could only think "I wish it wasn't such a shit of a game." How's the new one, as a game?

I need to finish Pathologic 2. I was at the end of the 6th or 7th day, I think. But I just had run out of food. I'm at my base, and I can't ride the boat upto Lara because the plague is at the boat dock nearest to me.
There's a fat meal in the daily rewards, but I die before I can get there.

I have, it's not art, just a game user.

It's way more of a game than the first one was, that's for sure. for better or worse it didn't lose its identity though, so it's still mostly very slow.

what why?

You talk too much

There's a dungeon crawler out than only outputs sound, so not even display is needed.

Games are obviously art, anyone who says otherwise is a fart-huffing pretentious fag or took the memes that these fart-huffing pretentious fags spew too seriously. In fact, games are capable of being much more impactful than other mediums because of interactivity.

no i dont. i win, retard

Maybe eat your nuts, since the children should be gone by day 6.

interesting, but its technically not a video game.
"a game played by electronically manipulating images produced by a computer program on a monitor or other display."

It depends on the art doesn't it? Something that utilizes the medium while also pushing its boundaries; something inspired and earnest; something with depth. Of course this is subjective but here are two examples: Rain World and The Last of Us 2. Rain World is what i'd argue to be an example of good art in the video game medium. It utilizes the medium in that it focuses on the interactivity of the world and unique experience only gathered from playing the game; it was made by a small team with a clear focus; it doesn't try to be a movie or book but instead expresses its themes in a way only a video game can—through gameplay; there's depth in the gameplay and world; it elicits an emotional response. The Last of Us 2 is what I'd call bad art. It doesn't do utilizes the medium in an interesting way, instead trying to tell its story in a very movielike way; it was made by a large team with a poor direction; the game can be easily consumed vicariously, as it's themes and messages are portrayed through just its writing and dialogue; there's no depth to the game and little depth to the story; it elicits little emotional response(unless you count annoyance).

A painting wouldn't be a very good art piece if the themes and morals were told in text painted over most of the painting.

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no you don't moron. fuck you

Some are, some arent
just with any other thing on this planet

If it's made by a human, it's inherently art. Art is derived from the term "artifact".

This only pushes me towards the yuro practice of calling them computer games.

Exactly my toughts.
I had pinned down 4 main things that could be used to define if a piece is good enough.
I forgot 2, but the 2 other ones were Intent and Effort. Can you maybe help me reclaim my memories, or maybe even create new ones?

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