>see shitposts about this elder Scrolls character for nearly a decade >A gay mentally ill time travelling robot who exterminated elves >Pay no attention because I assume it's just meming and wildly exaggerated or not true >Keep seeing it >Give in and read up on the lore of Pelinal >Wait wtf >All the shitposts were true >It's even quite gruesomely detailed for TES
I'm sorry for doubting you all these years, but also wtf? This character just seems so out of place
Elder Scrolls lore is pretty wild. Did you know that dunmer women are massive whores, and that khajiit have barbed dicks?
Daniel Harris
The first one is a prejudice that other races have with no actual basis in lore written by dunmer themselves. You are basically just repeating what other say about The Real Barenziah without having read the book. It downright disproves that prejudice.
Of course it's an Argonian nigger. That is not a counter argument. Especially not since you will barely find any dunmer women in the actual games that display such promiscuous behavior. Otherwise I could say Argonians are the biggest sluts because of one book about lusty maids and there is no writing from Argonians disproving any claim that they love non-Argonian dick so much. Barenziah, if that book is even to be considered factual in-universe truth, got this entire idea from a human. She was raised by humans and had no idea about dunmer culture. Don't just repeat what others say, don't even believe me. Read it for yourself.
It's also not true. All that lore comes from a single historical novel, written nearly 1000 years after the events. Also specifically written during Reman's time, explaining stuff like how Pelinal called out Reman's name.
Yes a book says it, but the pelinal we meet actually in game is a fairly normal guy. This means it's likely the song of pelinal is reman era propoganda to make himself seem more divine and also discredit alessia's conquests by attributing most of the credit to a mythological figure like pelinal.
Pelinal also allegedly existed in the mythic era, many thousands of years before Alessia's time and allegedly conquered all of tamriel, but weirdly no other source mentions this, like the song of pelinal it's probably not true.
Oh no, but I've just gotten sick of elder scrolls lore discussions turning into people repeating whatever epic thing they read in a single minor source and taking it as 100% true and factual. If the real world worked like this, everyone should be convinced atlantis is real because plato said it was once.
Michael White
>gets a whole DLC >detailed lore compared to most characters >hes known throughout the different cultures and despised by elves >you: it's not true theres no proof
>If the real world worked like this, everyone should be convinced atlantis is real because plato said it was once. People DID, and many (idiots) still do, think Atlantis was real. To this day a lot of our knowledge of Roman history comes from Livy, who was hilariously fucking innacurate
Andrew Edwards
bit weird how none of the knights of the 9, pelinal himself or anything in that DLC seems to mesh with the ideas presented in Song of Pelinal. All that can be considered true is Pelinal defeated umaril at White-Gold. Or that Pelinal isn't mentioned every outside of that DLC, Song of Pelinal and The Armorer's Challenge (or whatever that book is called).
I'm not saying there's no proof, I'm saying citing a single source written centuries after the fact and done during the reign of an emperor who tried to assert himself as a god. Surely Reman ordering a rewriting of history is a better explanation for things like Pelinal shouting Reman at Sancre Tor than Pelinal being a timetraveller. Well that was a bad example on my part, Atlantis even has films about it, it must be real.
Austin Young
>Surely Reman ordering a rewriting of history is a better explanation for things like Pelinal shouting Reman at Sancre Tor than Pelinal being a timetraveller. normally i'd agree but this is Elder Scrolls so time-travel is just a thing that happens sometimes. Skyrim is all about it
Zachary Smith
>a single source
Repeating this doesn't make it true. Pelinal is referenced in multiple books/dialogues outside of the songs of pelinal. just off the top of my head, the part about him slaughtering khajiit is in the pocket guide to the empire
Brody Ramirez
>Elder Scrolls lore is pretty wild. How the fuck did it get byzantine? Was this an evolution over a decade of constant re-writing by dozens of people, or something that was actually given planning and thought. I get the feeling it was haphazard until the arrival of online wikis when the staff writers could look shit up in a quasi-organised fashion.
Lucas Foster
>SONG ENDS
Julian Hernandez
Calling it now: Main character in Starfield.
Ian Ross
Now go read C0DA and you'll truly understand what "out of place" means and why is TES deeplore such a gem. c0da.es/c0da/provisional
Hudson Adams
Most of the crazy shit is from MK going on coke binges. The sermons of vivic for example were written in one coke session I believe.
James Thomas
>rips out throat
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMAN!!!!!!!!!
Daily reminder that Alessia fucked his best friend Morihaus (a literal bull with wings) and created minotaurs which Pelinal tried to warn him about.
Gabriel Anderson
OF A KNIGHT CALLED PELINAL. >SONG ENDS OF THE STAR-MADE KNIGHT
James Mitchell
The really weird and contradicting nature of TES lore begun mostly with Morrowind. Lore was written by several writers, often not directly communicating with each other and with obvious biases. Maybe many of them weren't actually hired as writers, but don't quote me on that.
Started with Morrowind. Big writer named Michael Kirkbride went on meth-cocaine fueled binges and wrote some crazy shit, he still writes but just not for Bethesda; they'll take some if his shit and make it canon though, like Tiber Septim changing Cyrodiil from jungle to grassland: the shit Heimskr spews in Whiterun is taken right from Kirkbrids.
Sebastian Mitchell
>My father humiliated by the Empress >Nenalata as a vassal-state to the Empire of Cyrodiil >Wrenching transition to a slave-less economy >Forced adoption of Alessia's Eight Divines >I don the Crown of Nenalata >Rising sense of futility and doom
Wyatt Hughes
But pelinal is the queer, queer
Colton Martin
Hawt
David Flores
pelinal is homo, not queer
Daniel Cooper
>The sermons of vivic for example were written in one coke session I believe. It wasn't cokce, it was acid. He didn't showed up at work for a week and when Todd came to check on him he found him on the kitchen flor, lying naked in fetal position.
you meet him as a ghost in the knights of the nine dlc for oblivion
Jaxon Lewis
That would be fucking based, so of course Bethesda will not go there.
Nathaniel Jones
Oblivion, Knights of the Nine
But user didn't mention that Pelinal is often cited as a Shezzarine, essentially a reincarnation of a God that comes when needed, the God in question is named Lorkhan, the most hated by the elves, the most beloved by man.
Gabriel Butler
Oh. Never played Oblivion.
Brody Morris
Skyrim Haha, jk. It was just VIGILANT mod.
Eli Ramirez
who isn't a fucking reincarnation of a god in TES lore. 90% of people are.
Dylan Cooper
Eh, it's not too much really. No more than 10.
The ones I know off the top of my head are Pelinal, Wulfharth, I think Reman is claimed sometimes, and some say the Last Dragonborn.
Ryan Jenkins
Don't say that in front of him, though. Else, ye'd get beaten to death like the poor soldier that did.
Colton Ortiz
If you haven't seen it already, this is one of the greatest fanmade creations for the elder scrolls. A small animated opera of The Song of Pelinal. youtu.be/E5ix0_W-ouI
Sebastian Roberts
>everyone should be convinced atlantis is real because plato said it was once he's right and it is