Smash online

How is it that Melee has online that's more or less identical to local play while being fucking free, yet Ultimate has brawl-tier netcode that you have to fucking pay for?

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gimme the details

slippi.gg

Rollback doesn't work with ultimate

>It doesn't work because Sakurai, when put on the spot about why the online is so shit and why the game doesn't have rollback, said so.
I don't buy it

The version of melee people use to play online doesn't have very much actually going on.

Rollback in ultimate would have to include client-side prediction for not only up to four players characters, but also any items on the stage. The complexity required just to satisfy compfags isn't worth it in my opinion.

It's cool but why would I play melee in 2020

Its fun and its basically the only game without a dead scene.

Because they'll buy it anyway.
And they did, seeing as Ultimate sold 18+ million copies.

>Why doesn't my party game have rollback?

Because Melee's community is passion-driven, while Ultimate's community is made up of no-life pedophile retards and children for them to prey on.

you got my interest OP. I'm sick of laggy bullshit and I just wanna rock someone's shit with Doc Mario without having to worry about laggy shit. So I basically ahve to use an emu and this slippi online BS right? Is it mostly user friendly or am I gonna have to learn some Python shit to get this going?

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Because rollback works like complete fucking shit on anything that isnt 1v1 on static stages, while delay based works much better when taken into account items on, moving stages and more than two fighters

I'm not good but I still have fun

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If you’re a competitivefag you should kill yourself

dude, rollback is just another name for client side prediction. It's a netcode standard made by first person shooters. it's literally designed to work with more than two people, it just happens to be the optimal netcode for fighting games

Smash isn’t a fighting game

Oh my God. I'm so angry that you said that. I'm literally frothing at the mouth. Here's your dopamine rush, hope you can survive another day without killing yourself with it.

Seething

If you're the marth that's some decent spacing you got there.

Quake has rollback.

Never been in a tournament :)

Do you play only one game mode with no items on 1 stage?

Teams and singles on 6 stages with items like turnips, bob-ombs, bombs, laser swords, food, and Mr. Saturns.

COPE

>Slip Pigg
>Icon is a frog

This. I wish rollback was in but I think there's just too many elements too keep in sync, as opposed to just two fighters

every online shooter known to man uses rollback. smash is baby shit compared to the chaos going on in a game like tf2, with 20+ players

I play 2 game modes with 6 stages and mostly no items.

Ultimate is a product with different priorities and a different market in mind. Support for 4 player online item matches that are presentationally identical to offline play if paramount.

99% of bad predictions and rollbacks in an FPS will not be seen or felt by any one player, due to how am FPS match is designed and structured. Every single rollback will be seen and impact all players in a Fighting game.

That's not an excuse for not doing it, but the problem is nonetheless different.