Graphics peaked with the PS2, there was no need to go beyond that

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I don't give a shit what faggots and zoomers say, PS2 will never be retro until VR becomes the norm, PS5 controller in 2020 has the same button layout as the PS2 controller from 2000, which was the same as the DS1 from 1997, games today don't play much different from games back then, we still use 4 shoulder buttons, 4 face buttons and 2 sticks
Once everything is in VR with gloves or mind control then I will consider all these consoles retro

Yeah, and the funny thing is most Indie's can't even get to PS1 level, let alone PS2.

Silent Hill 3 is one of the greatest graphical masterpieces ever.

graphics peaked with mgs4

sh3 should have remade old silent hill instead of reusing chunks of 2

More accurate statement here.

well to make a PS1 game you needed maybe 15 or 20 people, good painters, 3D modellers and animators, most indie games today are made by 3 or 4 basement dwellers that need to do everything themselves plus they all have unreal expectations with the game because this fucking industry make people believe the bigger the map the better the game
that was already too much work, that game needed 4 years even though it felt like a more polished MGS3 (in terms of gameplay not graphics). Anything over 3 years is already too much.

You needed a team of 15-20 people back then.
When the PS1 was the target system, which wasn't as easy to develop for as PC and modern consoles.
It's much easier now. It's just that you sell more copies making SNES-looking games than PS1 games.

>well to make a PS1 game you needed maybe 15 or 20 people,
lol nope. Pic related.
The original Team-Silent was like 11 creative dudes in total. Original ID Software was much smaller.

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a lot of modern indie games wish they looked as good as SNES games

It really was ahead of its time.

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11 is still more than 4 and no matter how much better photoshop 2020 or whatever software people use to make textures is compared to what they used in the 90s, you still need to know how to create good textures that don't look like garbage
I fucking hate kikerberg hope he drowns in his own vomit one day

Better get used to him user. He will be POTUS within your lifetime.

>Videogames peaked with MGS2

wrong

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Real question, can graphics actually get any better? It feels like they’re so close to life at this point for most games that do it right to where it seems as if we can’t improve any more.

You don't need 11 people to do any of that.
It was just more or less a requirement back when it took an entire weekend to render a 1 minute of 240p FMVs using all of the PC of the entire studio.

Not likely. The dude is a black hole of charisma.

So is Biden.

And his only chance of winning is massive amounts of voter fraud.

But we did go further though. What a dumb thread.

we say the same every gen, of course they can, some faces are still uncanny especially the eyes, lighting isn't perfect, walking through snow still looks bad, waves in water look weird, environments lack destruction...
and that's why trump is gonna win again

extremely low iq

MGS2 and 3 had such a good aesthetic, I often replay the tanker chapter just to appreciate it.