Are they really that bad?

is this opinion or fact because the enhanced edition of planescape looks pretty good to me

is this what happens when zoomies try playing Baldurs Gate on their iphones?

I don't get the complaints about the combat. It's still better than in something like FF VII which came out at a similar time and is never shit on for the combat.

The art direction of Planescape makes it timeless.

Just started Planescape the other day.
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I recommend 1400x900 resolution for 1080p monitors and 40% text size.
Setting a larger resolution made the ui way too small I felt.

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I'm somehow retarted and never actually read that first bit about the enhanced edition, nvm just play that

These games are hard to finish with BG 2 I found my sorcerer did fine throughout the game and then the final boss of the Throne of Bhall was just such an insane difficulty spike.

No resting allowed? Wtf is this.

ultimate neckbeard game

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CRPGS are niche.
Gaming was fairly niche when Zig Forums started.
Who is coming to Zig Forums to talk about popular games? You can talk about popular games anywhere. Please don't make any threads about games that most players finished: that's normie shit.

Theres no tactics compared to other simular games. Just gang up on a guy, rinse repeat.

If you play on the hardest combat then you literally need tactics, you need to use consumables, actually use morte as a tank, portion your heals... good ol tedious crpg combat.

But no one plays Planescape for the combat.

>It's still better than in something like FF VII
People don't just not shit on FF VII's combat, they praise it

I dunno why there's such a big difference between that and PST's combat's reception

I didn't like either one. Isometric RPG party based video games are just boring as hell to me. They are slow, the controls are functional but hardly considered good, and the stories are rarely worth the time to invest in. Then again, I am approaching these systems that are trying to mimic tabletop RPGs as someone who actually plays a lot of tabletop RPGs and when you keep the combat and options so limited compared to dumb fun shit you can do in a tabletop RPG that these games are based on, they lose a lot of what makes the games great.

In the video game, I move 30 feet and attack or cast a spell. In a tabletop game we cast reduce size on a big boulder and throw it over an enemy's head and cancel the spell effect on it's way down to smash the fucker all Wyle E Coyote style. Having a half-orc fighter slide down a hill on a greased up shield to toss a battle raged halfling barbarian at a flying wizard is something we have done in tabletop, but never in games that simulate the tabletop games I play. So, yeah, I am not a fan of them.

Yeah, unlike the tactics in FF games or Chrono Trigger where you need the tactics of pressing the attack option where you get one and repeating ad infinitum.

Consolebabies get confused by combat in CRPGs and the only way they know how to react is calling the combat shit.

Funny how PC roaches try to act elitst when their only saving graces is pirating console multiplats

I just played BG1 on the PS4. I beat Sarevok after...mtiple attempts. I can see the appeal in this genre.

>Planescape Torment
>Not niche
>2020

What this fella said. I've finished BG2 7 times I think when I was young. Ps:T once.

I tried playing Planescape once. Spent an hour reading shit about some people I believe were called Dusters. I grew weary of it and ceased playing the game.

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BG1>BG2

The combat is functional but not very engaging or fun to play on the whole to many people. I agree with them. Purely tactics based games do it way better, action RPGs are more satisfying, and it often feels like these games are taking the worst elements of both when it comes to implementing them. They aren't exactly deep combat games either and anyone with a basic understanding of party dynamics and character roles can pretty much use the same strategies over and over again to win the vast majority of battles. You like them, then enjoy them, but it isn't hard to see why many do not like them.

I recently played BG1 om the ps4 and frankly...i hated the wilderness areas. I heard BG2 got rid of them. True?

Don't use steam or user metrics for defining whether a game is good or bad. Most people don't complete games period. Many don't even make it past the first hour of a game.

What book?