Who are those people to decide whether crunch is a good or a bad thing. Just because they are mediocre and never felt the passion nor the need to create the greatest product possible because you are one of the few people on earth who could actually achieve this doesn't mean that everyone else should lower themselves to a soccer mum tier balanced work life. And if you don't like it just quit.
Also it is somehow heroic and admirable when musicians or scientists pull all nighters to full fill something they worked on for their entire life but not for game developers.
There's being creative and there's being an easily replaceable drone making sure the users get the newest product version in time.
Samuel Young
Imagine being a wagecuck and actually falling for the passion meme from a soulless corporation. If you're an indie dev I can buy being doing something like crunching, but getting convinced to give up your personal life for no benefit makes you ultimate cuck.
Josiah Gonzalez
Try making this post again once you've had a job OP
Thomas Wood
Because crunch is a result of poor management but the workers are the one who suffer the consequences for some suits shitty decision and inflexibility. If you have crunch you can be sure the quality is going to suffer since at that point you're probably just pushing to get a MVP out.
Luke Fisher
>Also it is somehow heroic and admirable when musicians or scientists pull all nighters to full fill something they worked on for their entire life but not for game developers. These scenarios you describe would be voluntary. There is a difference in output when someone is choosing to work long overtime hours and when they are being forced and threatened about losing bonuses etc.
Aiden Rodriguez
The issue is mandatory overtime that is so egregious that it can and has ruined some peoples' lives. Busting your ass out of passion is fine, but it should be at your own discretion and you should be compensated fairly for it, doubly so if you're under the thumb of a multi-billion dollar multi-national corporation
Elijah Gray
crunch only exists because of jew corporations basically saying "get it done by x or you're fired"
Daniel Jackson
Zig Forums users gagging on corporate dick is always so fucking depressing.
>yes wagie you must understand we need you to work 60 hours, the shareholders are expecting their large cash bonuses this quarter off of your hard work You literally love shareholder cock in your throat if you think this is alright.
Jonathan Mitchell
Yeah how old are you OP? This mindset is just bending over and inviting corporations to come on in.
Jeremiah Sanchez
People who write about video games like to be sanctimonious because they feel trivial and insecure
Matthew Fisher
>And if you don't like it just quit. it's their right to treat you like shit, just get another job 4head >Also it is somehow heroic and admirable when musicians or scientists pull all nighters It should be neither heroic nor admirable. Are Americans okay?
Dominic Powell
>Are Americans okay? american here, no
Nolan Perry
Putting your all towards working on your passion is fine. But nobody's passion is pushing out a bland triple A title that's more marketing than content so that shareholders can get their dividends.
>it's their right to treat you like shit It’s not, actually.that what labour laws are for, so worker have rights...
Benjamin Carter
Nothing sounds more like passion than grinding your life away in a depressing fashion because your management can't keep schedule
Logan Russell
the humblebragging about how busy you were and how little sleep you were getting drove me crazy in college, it's such an unhealthy culture. so many genuinely intelligent and driven people being taught from a very young age that it's normal to sacrifice your well-being to make your bosses happy
Henry Diaz
For substantially less money than you were regularly being paid and x10 less than what you would have been paid had development followed humane time constraints.
Brody Bell
I'm not denying you earn more money doing it, I'm saying it hardly sounds like passion as the OP said.
Tyler Reed
>passion is being willing - and eager, in fact - to work for less than you deserve every fucking time
Based on your r*ddit post I can assume you never had a job in your entire pathetic life. As to quote your stupid post: >Who are (you) to decide whether crunch is a good or bad thing? Crunch is never something you will do voluntarily. It is always a combination of upper lazy fucks fucking something up combined with guilt tripping the employee into doing it or simply indirect threats of either firing, pay cuts, even more crunch, treating the employee like garbage until they quit out of their own will, denying future promotions and general degradation because the employee is always powerless in any situation and bills don't wait for better jobs. If that's what they wanted, more power to them but I guarantee that most of them didn't. Also, not everyone is a mutt obsessed with working and cu*king out of their own life to fill Mr. Shekelburg's pockets. I suggest lurking until you are 18 and had at least 1 month of enployment you absolute retard.
Hunter Ortiz
They also don't do that for months at a time.
Blake Roberts
Crunch is bad unless it's paid overtime, then it's fine
Daniel Turner
>meanwhile Management who can’t do their job right gets 10x your salary plus huge bonuses for sales milestones
Ryder Hughes
What's with all the communists itt
Jaxson Price
Crunch has nothing to do with getting the game out on time it’s entirely so Management can get their bonuses.
