Are we still pretending these aren't two of the best FPS vidya of all time?

>very pretty
Well, 2016 sure is
Based

spbp

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>>chainsaws for magic ammo
when ever since the original we've had:
>ammo laying around hell for no damn reason
Video games. Retire your copypasta. It isn't good criticism

>polygon "journalists" playing poorly is a valid criticism of the game

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The formula the nuDooms follow works fine, it’s just far closer to a regular hack-and-slash like traditional God of War or Darksiders: Here’s a hallway, here’s some stops in the hallway with something to collect, here’s a fight

This but unironically.

>there has to be a reason for ammo to be laying around, like the reason why ammo pops out of demons or the reasons that drive the plot in a story where every single word is pure retardation

NOOOOO MY AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDIES DEGREE ISNT HELPING

im glad these games are highly successful and well received despite what fucking autists on Zig Forums will tell you
if you like fps's, these are fun as fuck

>ammo laying around hell for no damn reason
That’s easily more sensible than every enemy just happening to have every piece of ammo Doomguy is missing when he chainsaws them.

this is actually the reason why i didnt buy this game disappointed as fuck

this is literally 80% of all vidya ever made

If you're fine with shotgun shells being strewn about hell, you should be fine with shotgun shells popping out of a demon's guts. It's pure video game logic and at some point you stop trying to rationalize it because game balance is more important than plot justification.

Doom 2006 is amazing
Doom Eternal has some hits and misses

>best FPS plays like a character action game

Nah.

NuDoom is decent but I still prefer OG Doom's style and gameplay.

And it’s been the standard for 95% of shooters since the 2000, when nearly all games started to get too big for fuckwits to “get lost” in.
There’s thankfully been a few shooters providing otherwise since 2016: You can get the gorgeous and satisfying but market-tested safe NuDooms while the other new shooters fill every other niche.

Who the fuck is arguing for ammo pickups via plot justification

Who doesn't?

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>If you're fine with shotgun shells being strewn about hell...
That’s from all the other marines sent forth who failed their mission and got gored and fucked ahead of you. Why are they sending near harmless zombies filled with shitloads of munitions? It’s a far bigger stretch.

Yes, it's an interesting formula and I don't doubt it is a good one. But I don't know exactly how fans of classic FPS would react to that same formula if it weren't for the name "Doom".
For example, I saw ZeroMaster playing Doom Eternal, and he's extremely good, but would he be dedicating himself to Doom Eternal if the game was called "The warriors of Nuh-Tahr 2"? What I mean, it's a decent gameplay, but I personally have the impression that it's not exactly the type of gameplay that people who play classic FPS are really interested in. But it may just be a biased opinion because I am taking into account my particular experience.

Exactly. So why would chainsaw ammo need justification? That's just how the game works.

And in Doom and Doom 2, the marines sent ahead of you placed chainsaws on raised pedestals that come down to the ground with a button? Face it, you're a hypocrite.

Name a better single player FPS.

>Nu-Doom modernized the classic FPS style and in my opinion made the formula unplayable
it didn't modernize it threw all the the "classic" shooter design out the window, it's in another category
btw ultrakill is also in that category and runs rings around the new doom games

>nuDoom's movement is hailed as fast and revolutionary
>game feels slow as molasses after playing Titanfall 2
>to the point that nuDoom2 copies Titanfall's movement
>however unlike Titanfall's movement that looks and feels like it flows and has momentum, nuDoom's character looks like a static blob floating through the air during platforming

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Who the fuck is arguing against chainsaw ammo via plot justification

Read the thread, nigga
He's clearly taking issue with the chainsaw mechanic because it's "magic" despite the fact Doom has always been video-gamey, minus maybe 3's attempt at realism.

>And in Doom and Doom 2, the marines sent ahead of you placed chainsaws on raised pedestals that come down to the ground with a button?
I could imagine demons placing them on traps or as a lure, certainly better than them a demon dropping them on death when killed in an arbitrary way.
I can also give a game from ‘93 a bit more slack than one who sees the need to make weapons float but not ammo for reason.

The stupid faggot could have been shut up at post 1 with
>what is ammo economy
NuDoom is essentially virtual Zimbabwe.

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No, he's taking issue with the mechanic because of how frequently it occurs
It could also be criticizing the bright fucking neon it vomits all over your screen but that's not the main issue

What went so right?

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So you'd go out of your way to justify the silly weapon placement and other video gamey elements, like hell always being locked behind 3 key/skull doors before you'll admit you don't really care about chainsaws that generate ammo, huh? Just admit you're nitpicking now because you want to hate it.

where the ?
OY BLOODY ELL FUCKING CUNT SHIT FUCK CUNT, ITS A FUCKING DOOMSLAYER IT IS! GET EM

Classic Doom handles ammo drops far more realistically, for what its worth