Graphics go up

Graphics go up.

Gameplay go down.

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This little catmonkey says you're wrong

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>left timeless and literally helped pioneer the industry with creating the first gaming IP more recognizable than Mickey Mouse

>right will be forgotten within the next decade

I don't even think anyone is excited for Horizon's sequel. The whole franchise seems like committee-created IP designed to appeal to everyone but ended up being the most soulless thing ever.

This is true. Though I will mention I was playing touhou, and I thought what was the point of the art, music, story when you can just mathematically dodge patterns, I realized just how cold and sad that was, and that graphics are still important, probably equally as important as gameplay. It's just that normies love graphics more than gameplay, but that doesn't mean everything should be an ASCII Roguelike, or spreadsheet engineering simulator.

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Both are boring games

that's because it is. movies, television, and video games are all heavily focus grouped

Imagine me, too, someone who studied 3D modelling and all Zig Forums does is take a shit on graphics everyday, just because some game developers focus way too much on it.

it's a zero sum situation

based

Woah... A two-button game... I was so wrong, bros...

Yeah, but we already knew you were a retard so it's no big deal.

Bait-sama... I kneel...

You actually haven't played Super fuckin Mario Bros. Go back to whatever shithole you came from.

You think you're smart, but you aren't, maybe smarter than the masses of normies. But artstyle is a part of graphics. Focusing too much on graphics is evil, graphics by itself isn't evil.

As much as edgy gamers try to deny it, graphics are gameplay. The way the gameplay is conveyed to you is part of what you enjoy about it.
I personally don't care for the focus on realism and fidelity though.

No thanks, boomer

kek Boomers getting BTFO

>The way the gameplay is conveyed to you is part of what you enjoy about it.
If I cared at all about graphics I'd have stopped a quarter century ago because 3D is shit.

Sometimes games are just bad, it has nothing to do with graphics or realism, sometimes they can be the cause, but if you think there aren't a buttload of crappy cartoony games out there you're pretty delusion. I still remember the Party Baby Era, of childish cartoony garbage shovelware, Zig Forums was shilled to death during those years giving you guys a serious brain dent, making everyone here hate mature games and graphics, when cartoony games and gimmicks(A type of Gameplay) can be incredibly bad too.

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Also, you're right but in totally the wrong way. 3D action is always worse than 2D action. for example.

The 3D presentation kills gameplay but it never adds to it.

That's literally what all PS exclusives are.

You're literally saying you care about graphics and you have a personal preference for 2d ones. That's fine.

There's realism and there's A E S T H E T I C.

And then there's sound design that's made specifically to complement the gameplay to improve it even further.

Not sure how your post is related to mine in any way honestly.

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You mean to tell me that a game exists as a whole object, distinct from the sum of its parts?
what an absurd assertion

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You mentioned realism being bad, so I mentioned cartoony games being bad too sometimes. You mentioned fidelity, so I mentioned useless gimmicks (What happens when you focus too much on gameplay).

I said that focusing on realism too much is not to my taste, I didn't say that every nonrealistic game is inherently good. Why would you even make these arguments? Do you really think anyone believes that?

hard disagree. graphics got worse, gameplay got better: new games graphics are often boring, and difficult to read. on the other hand, the potential for what we can do with gameplay has really opened up.

explain what 'gameplay' is inproved by having 4k verus 1080p. or even 720p.
The gamecube/ps2 era was more than enough to push out any aethestic/art style you could want for a game, the ps3/xbox360 even more so.
Instead of pushing more graffix/polygons we should have been focused on framerate...something that ACTUALLY fucking impacts how you control and input actions into the game.
Fucking faggot ass graffixnigger.

>Cherry picking a 10/10 cartoony game and comparing it against a shitty realistic game

Here you are bros, found you that cartoony game that focuses on gameplay rather than GRAPHICS.

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>explain what 'gameplay' is inproved by having 4k verus 1080p. or even 720p.
I literally said I don't care for fidelity, who are you arguing against?