Muv Luv Thread

Why was the side material like Total Eclipse so shit? Weren't they written by the same guy

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It was always shit.

>MUH UNDERDEVELOPED CAST GETTING KILLED OFF BOO HOO

The side shit was 6-7/10, not terrible but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
Also I think they felt they hit a dead end with Muv-Luv because you could only get into the series through a dating sim, which is why they only marketed the spin-offs for like 10 years.
Least now we're finally getting the good shit again.

They should let the series die really

It's weird because their drama stuff was pretty good. Altered Fable, Kimi no Nozomu Eien was good but total eclipse and that other one? ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz. What the fuck happened?

Retard dilate die.

Like I said in the last post, I think they really felt like being a dating sim held them back. For example whenever I see someone talk about Muv-Luv on reddit or somewhere with less good taste they usually say shit like "power through Extra" or "Just read a summary of Extra". So they went against their bread and butter and went for Action! Ecchi! Drama! and they had no idea how to frame a story like that. Muv-Luv only worked so well because the developers had an intricate knowledge of the dating sim genre and knew how to create lovable characters and how to be "deconstructionist" without being some contrived pseudo shit like DDLC was.
Also Kimi no Nozomu Eien in English when.

Lightning doesn't strike twice user. Alt was obviously a project with alot of passion put into it and then it became popular so they half assed and shit out garbage to make more money.

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I mean I don't really blame them for trying to make a quick buck, VNs are a dying medium and I wouldn't be suprised if a company like Age was bleeding money. At least it gave them enough time to finally make Integrate and an anime, I wish them the best for all the good shit they made.

what the fuck is up with that name. "Muv Luv"? What is up with the retarded naming conventions of the japanese. Do they just throw letters on a wall and use whatever sticks?

The anime is still really good. Holy shit it hits hard in the ending when Takayuki doesn't even show up for Haruka's recovery

I've heard good shit about the anime, but as a purist I have to do the VN. Even if I have to wait another 19 years, hopefully with the 20th annyiversy coming up we will finally get something.

I guess. I enjoyed Kimi Ga Nozomu Muv Luv, showed they still had passion to the project. Anything that doesn't revolve around the main cast they seem to be main assing. Whatever, anime info in 2 days. I don't care if it's shit I'll be watching it as a clip show. they're totally going to remove the isekai element aren't they

Also adding to this.
I actually really liked Extra. Why the fuck do people hate on it so much? My only beef is really Sumika's ending because meiya gets mad shafted. like she doesn't even get a proper rejection. it's just oh she's gone....uhh time to go for my second choice? but other then that the dynamic of Sumika and Meiya was really well done. It's too bad they didn't meet much in Unlimited/Alternative yes i know keeping this spoilerfree in case someone who hasn't read it sees this post.

Extra was fantastic and on its own it easily would have been of the best dating sims ever made.But the fact that its tacked onto on of the greatest weeb shit things ever made overshadows it so much that it brings in people who have no experience in dating sims. When they're told "omg its one of the greatest things ever made even better then EVA with all its psychological shit." they come in expecting deep mecha action and instead get a dating sim. Its no wonder that they hate it because its so jarring from expectations, its why I never recommend Muv-Luv to people unless they're deep into VNs. Doesn't help that people just look at best rated VNs of all time and start from there.

I enjoyed them all.
Tama a cute.

It's such a conundrum. I'm trying to recommend my friends it but the first fucking thing they do even though I tell them not to is search it up.
Then they either go into one of two ships
>Oh it's weeb shit (well technically it is.)
>WHOA COOL ITS SOME DOPE /m/ shit
The first crew they won't touch it with a 10 inch pole, the second crew try it out, find out it's not /m/ stuff start doubting on it and put it on a massive hold. Doesn't help the anime is coming out so even more people are going to be the second type.

I think I'm going to try a different strategy and recommend rumbling hearts first and then go from there.

Honestly its better to recommend Fate/Stay Night for a first VN (Prepares for a long length of VNs, its good and has a lot of characters and you'll like at least one, easy to acquire for free) and letting them go from there. Recommending Muv-Luv to a newcomer is like recommending ancient Greek academic books to a kid that wants to read Percy Jackson.

Really? I never liked F/SN so I'm a bit biased but I'd think reccing something like Clannad or any of Key's stuff would be a bit better to get into Muv Luv. F/SN has really really laughable writing sometimes and goes FULL weeb chuu. Then again....

Eh, Fate was my first so might be biased. I thought it was a good entry point for all the reasons but if someone loves romance above all else then I can see why Fate would let down. Also Fate is pretty good because people have heard of it without ever actually getting into it so there's usually some interest there. Clannad has been one of the most popular romance/slice of life anime for 15 years and pretty much everyone has seen it or been spoiled already. Every time I google search Clannad I get related searches of spoilers.

I think Muv-Luv is just good

Same with Fate. Too bad Tsukihime is so underrated but holy fuck the influx of secondaries and newfags if the remake ever comes out is going to be annoying as fuck.

Its not as bad with Fate with spoilers, but yeah Fate has been flooded. I've learned how to ignore them though and I highly doubt Muv-Luv will be as overrun as Fate was.

sucks how Sumika has no other doujins compared to Meiya.

Also who's the new artist for Muv Luv? It's not bou, right? The art is different.

Unlike that whore Meyia, artists feel bad for lewding my pure wife Sumika.
Also we only have storyboard art currently so hard to say what Integrates art will look like in the final version but I wouldn't be surprised if they try to move away from the most early 2000's look possible.

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>artist feel bad for lewding my pure wife sumika
funny you say that considering all of her doujins is NTR or TENTACLES

but nah i was curious of the new artist like in this pic

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>funny you say that considering all of her doujins is NTR or TENTACLES
Those are only made by the most degenerate of scum and I think its just one dude making those.
Photonflowers is still made by Bou with two new artists I believe, guessing they brought them on to help "moe" it up.

The title, Muv-Luv, a play off of the Japanese slang Mabu-dachi (マブダチ), meaning true friend. In this way, Muv-Luv can be interpreted as a pun for "True Love."

It is supposed to be ironic considering the ending of Alternative, in which you have to ask yourself if of any of what you saw was "love," or just an amalgamation of desire and jealousy

Real answer it was love, Sumika only does things out of pure emotions.

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I agree whole-heartedly. Sumika is still one of my favorite characters of all time, I havent started AF yet but Final Extra left me in pain for about a week. She never got the respect and love she deserved, even in the end.

You give Sumikafags a bad name with your retard posting and avatar fagging in every Muv Luv thread. KIll yourself

The ultimate relief is knowing that after the events of Alternative Sumika is given the love and attention she deserves in the Extra universe.

I mean, ML is shit in general.

No she doesn't bruh. Re read the final hour, he still hits her and calls her a retard

M8 there's like one Muv-Luv thread every two months, forget giving Sumikafags a bad name we don't even have a name to begin with.

Its their form of affection towards each other, and in writing terms its meant to be a jarring full circle.

>He doesn't know about the stealth Muv Luv threads
Not every OP has MUV LUV in it

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>I love Sumika so much I am redeemed
>Keep up the harem
>Date any and every character in Altered Fable

Cope. Final Extra did the best girl terribly, especially compared to the based PTSD arc

Not really on Zig Forums much so I guess I'm missing out on these things.

Its meant to be a jarring return to the begging. Like how starting dating sims over again leads to a return to the same harem-lite even though you went through an emotional roller coaster with one girl.

Its supposed to be a story of creation, as stated by Yoshimune himself. With the world and history now created, Takeru now has the freedom to choose. IDK what hat you pulled this harem-lite stuff from

Imagine being Kasumi in final extra.
Finally seeing your noble confidant after travelling through space and time and he calls you by your last name. fucking terrible.