You can go back in time and erase ONE of these games & their influence on the Zelda series from existence forever, which do you pick?
You can go back in time and erase ONE of these games & their influence on the Zelda series from existence forever...
BotW, obviously. SS at least is accurately accepted as a bad game.
Wind Waker
SS isn't a bad game though.
Skyward Sword because that would directly affect the influence it had on doing the exact opposite of it for BotW, plus it would get rid of all the awful lore additions it made
Neither. I love them both.
neither faggot
It really is. The controls aren't a perfect 1:1, so you will inevitably get fucked every once in a while, since the gameplay is 100% Simon Says.
Skyward Sword because Miyamoto cancelled the planned Twilight Princess sequel to make it. Also you never get the awful lore retcons & BOTW doesn't get made as a response to SS being such a critical and commercial failure
Cope, WW was perfect. They fucked up by not releasing Twilight Princess in 2003 as the Majora's Mask sequel and giving Wind Waker a longer development cycle so it could Launch on the Wii instead
Botw. SS could have been good. Just needed some tweaks and a non retarded control scheme
BotW. SS was a result of a decade's worth of direction and was too late to influence with its motion controls, Red Steel 2 and Wii Sports Resort had already come and went. Also, I think SS is just a better game than BotW. Erasing SS might erase BotW but I'd rather not risk it considering the positive reception to ALBW was also important to that game's direction.
>WW was perfect
God, I fucking wish that were true. It's my least favorite 3D Zelda but it is so because it got fucked in development and it shows.
BotW easily. SS at least felt like a Zelda game. Now we're stuck with BotW circlejerk for the foreseeable future, and the sequel is unlikely to fix it all.
makes a good point though.
It would have been so easy to fix Zelda
>1998 - Ocarina of Time - N64
>2000 - Majora's Mask - N64
>2003 - Twilight Princess - GameCube
>Child Timeline complete
>2007 - The Wind Waker - Wii
>2011 - Wind Waker Sequel - Wii
>Adult timeline complete
This would have laid the ground work for either a continuation of the Hero of Time's story or another game in the downfall timeline. Instead they fucked everything up by releasing games way too early and putting so much shit on the spin-off handheld games, SS fucked up the series so bad that they needed a new timeline
Skyward Sword hands down.
Breath of the Wild was a mediocre game with great ideas and bad ideas in equal measure, but you could at the very least take the good ideas and build a great game off of them. The tutorial showed me that there was a great game hidden in there somewhere beyond all the filler and aimlessness and annoying systems.
Skyward Sword outright has no redeeming qualities outside of Groose and like 2 boss fights. It is such an unfathomably bad game in almost every regard that I wouldn't have given it the greenlight to be released regardless of it being finished. its existence is a stain on not only the Zelda brand but the entire company and especially Nintendo's EAD division.
Is your implication that the backlash against SS is what caused them to do BotW? I find it much more likely that they were just mindlessly aping popular open world concepts at the time.
Apparently the Zelda team has a history of taking fan feedback to heart, sometimes a bit too much. It's only hearsay but from what I gather, that's precisely what happened; overcorrection.
BOTW. Too much freedom ruins the flow of the game.
At best it was 50/50. You can't deny the obvious influence of games like Assassin's Creed.
Why would I want to do that?
Both were flawed but still a lot of fun.
We haven't even seen BotW's influence on the series yet (no, a musou spin-off doesn't count).
If BotW2 doesn't fix anything from BotW, then I would erase BotW.
It's really not. The controls and combat are fine
The controls will inevitably drop at least a few times during play. This is inevitable. You can't just say 'git gud'. This will literally happen at least a few times, and Nintendo specifically acknowledge this. Also, good luck ever porting SS to anything else ever.
>Fan backlash towards WW art style
>Wind Waker sequel cancelled
>Twilight Princess rushed together due to assets from WW and has a dark gritty art style
>People complain about TP's awful graphics
>SS is made & Twilight Princess's sequel is cancelled
>People complain about SS being too linear and story driven
>BOTW is made open world with no focus on the story or traditional formula
>People blindly praise BOTW as a masterpiece
>Aonuma comes out and says traditional progression like unlocking items will never return to 3D Zelda games again, ruling out the possibility of traditional dungeons coming back.
They better fucking not...
I have to disagree with meidocre game(it was really fucking good), but I will admit they could have done so much more considering how versatile the engine and physics is. If players can figure out all the options, the devs need to make challenges that make you use them. In conclusion BOTW 2 will be Game of the Decade.
we definitely have
and the influence is "more breath of the wild"
Remember when Zelda reinvented itself every entry? Well now we have a direct sequel and a spinoff that is probably plot relevant.
BOTW, it's not a zelda game. I like far cry as much as the next guy, but BOTW needs to stay as a one off and not the standard
>this blatant samefagging
Stop trying to force your meme cycle. Everyone hated and still hates SS.
Fuck off, retard
Ss obviously it was the only 3d zelda tha was so bad i didn't bother finishing it
>UUUUUUURGGHHH UUUUGGGGH MUUUUH MUH DUNGEONS
>*pushes the block to press on the switch*
>*shoots eye with arrow*
>*camera pans to the switch in the room*
>*uses dungeon item to activate switch*
>WEEEEEE I SOLVED THE PUZZLE!!! EPIC ZELDA DUNGEONS!!!!
>oh my god! noooo BotW is too free! please, please tell me how to play! please hold my hand! I can't deal with the big open world! I need to be told what to do and follow the straight line! Noooo this is not Zelda!!! Where's my companion spoonfeeding me the answer to everything???
Seethe harder autist
take your meds faggot, and stop stating your homoaids opinions as fact
Skyward Sword easy. Fuck timelineshit and fuck Demise.
>erase SS
>you also erase ALBW, BOTW, and probably other games
>erase BOTW
>you also erase BOTW 2
Can I just settle for erasing MM 3D? Maybe we'd get a better remake.
I erase skyward sword because without it BOTW which copies and reuses tons of shit from SS wouldn't exist in it's form either.
Erase SS is the true answer because it gets rid of both.
I erase OoT and all the formulaic garbage it started that thankfully BotW killed after SS flopped.
What does ALBW have to do with any other Zelda besides ALttP?
>which copies and reuses tons of shit from SS
?????
It copied literally nothing. BotW is a fusion of WW and TP.
>formulaic garbage it started
so they will just copy the formulaic garbage from LTTP and recreate OOT, again. your answer is beyond stupid.
Without OOT you lose Dark Souls, Grand Theft Auto, Devil May Cry, Shadow of the Colossus, ICO and any other game that uses lock-on aiming
>artstyle
>character design
>enemy design
>sound effects
>music
Bro zelda has been rehashing things since TP, which bled into SS and then BOTW. They are all garbage.
SS. The game holds your hand through way too many things.
>Skyward Sword
What fucking influence does it have? It was just a peak casualization of a formula that was in use for the last 20 years.