Protagonist is a fucking failure who does everything wrong but still believes he's in the right

>protagonist is a fucking failure who does everything wrong but still believes he's in the right

Are there any other games with MCs like this? For some reason I find it interesting

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You forgot to say he got everything he deserved

He had a hard life and did the best he could

>be me
>lose only girl in my family in a horrible tragedy
>global disaster turns me and my friends into vicious survivalists down on our luck
>be given a potential boon by means of a young girl, the future of the new world
>spend an entire storyline chasing and slowly catching up to the girl in the hopes that you can redeem your past's misery
>take to drastic measures in order to protect this young girl, harming her in the process and making yourself an even worse person

So why is Joel not as memorable as Brad, anyways?

no he didnt. he did the best he could in a desperate situation but eventually broke in the end like anyone would've. he deserved so much better for his fate then becoming a disgusting flesh beast hated by everyone.

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The Imperium from 40K

Deponia

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Because the name Joel sucks

Guys will you play my fangame when it releases

you also have to remember that he did the best he could because he was selfishly trying to absolve a sin in his own way instead of giving her to rando, who would have probably protected her as much as he could have.
He also abandoned and beat the shit out of Rando in spite of him being the only relatively decent and selfless man in the wasteland left.
He let his regrets take advantage of him instead of trying to genuinely be better, and his own shame prevented him from doing what was truly best, not only for humanity, but for her.

no we don't play games here

Actually is there any given reason why Brad never joined Rando's army?
Cause like, that would solve every problem in the game. Brad would be an incredible asset to Rando's army and would shoot up the ranks immediately, even if it were out of simple nepotism, it would wean him off of drugs easier with a genuine support group and goals and he'd even be able to raise Buddy, probably better than before since he wouldn't have to worry as much about keeping her secret.

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don't you play games, friend? almost every game is like this, and a lot of the time, the bad guy is actually right

Spec ops the line

Brad's fucked in the head, completely selfish, and actively hates Rando for no good reason despite Rando being the only person who probably ever respected him.

Did he hate him? Its been a while, maybe he was ashamed he abandoned him.

Consent

it's all about the execution, and the fact Niel Cuckman ruins everything he touches

>The Last of Us series
>Metal Gear series
>Halo
>Red Dead Redemption 1 and 2

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Wasn't him already doomed the moment he took Joy for the first time?

Looks like Patrick Boivin

you forget that until the very end of the game is brad given any indication that rando is a good man. and from how ruthless his troops are its easy to get the wrong idea about him. and so what if rando is a good man? you really think he could prevent all of his men from raping buddy? even if he personally guarded her 24/7 he would have to sleep at some point and they could kidnap her and have their way. its easy to see why brad saw the rando army as such a huge threat and why he did the things he did. and I never saw "absolving his sin" as the major reason he goes after buddy. he clearly cares about her as more then just a tool to absolve his guilt and genuinely wants her to have a happy life. he just has no clue how to properly do this with his limited experience and hostile environment he inhabits. brad did nothing wrong.

No? Joy only turns you into a mutant if you take a lot if I remember correctly. Brad only changed because Buzzo force fed it to him

>is brad given any indication that rando is a good man.
Brad literally crashed his bikes into the dude, and Rando apologized, gave him rations, and cried before he was driven off.
his men are ruthless dicks yes, and there is a chance they could try to rape buddy if it were just Rando, since hes a big softy, but if Brad joined Rando, he would probably quickly scare off most, and anyone who's dumb enough to try afterwards would not only piss off brad enough to be hunted down, but enough men in rando's army including rando himself if he found out would probably be furious she got spoiled like that and would help brad along the way. Rando was an extremely big deal in the wasteland remember, to the point none of the local warlords wanted to fuck with him, and it was only after his army was gone did they start infighting, so only someone really stupid and buzzo would be able to pull that shit, and thats assuming brads murder training failed buddy when she needed it most.

Joel can’t throw fireballs, know Kung fu, help create RANDO, keep fighting even without arms and a working brain

Connor from AC3. The last good AC protagonist.

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I thought the secret areas said the trigger was obsession, they get super powerful to achieve a goal and then break down and turn into Joy mutants

>does everything wrong
except killing Marty

Nigger

From what I remember joy just makes you feel nothing, and if you take too much you begin to have your deepest desires take you over until you finally turn into a joy mutant. if you SUCCSEED in getting your deepest desire you simply become benign, and stop moving or thinking

Wait for my game's release then.

Nier Gestalt/Replicant.

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Eh, i guess i just remember it wrong

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Zombie games and walking movie games are boring

I'm pretty sure Brad has no idea what Rando's true identity is until MAYBE the final fight, where Brad's far beyond thinking rationally anyway

there’s no passion put in Joel in the 2nd game unlike Brad who the creator based off his own passed father