MC has no talent whatsoever

I hated this the most.

neji was totally right, and the best character in the show next to itachi
who wouldnt have become weaker and then died if it werent for plot sickness

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>the one hard worker had his hand and leg crushed early on and was basically never seen again outside noncanon anime filler.

Having a nuclear reactor sealed in you that you can pump endless chakra from into a technique forbidden and considered difficult only because it drains so much chakra it can kill weak users isn't really a talent.

Itachi got bitched out because "I gotta save da billage" or whatever, and then sauce-gay went double dumbass for wanting to destroy the leaf village even though he killed donzo

Rock lee really got the short end of the dick and shouldve been the hokage

Wait, Lee never returned? I was sure they were going somewhere with him.

woulda liked to see naruto being forced to be a rogue ninja & rock lee becoming hokage

>MC turns out to be jesus all along
Neji was righr

That was never the fucking message. That wasn't even what Neji argued about. Neji was butthurt because he believed that neither hard work OR talent mattered in the face of destiny. His main case in point being that even though he had more talent than Hinata and worked harder than her, it didn't matter because he was always doomed to be a house slave to the Main Branch. He told Naruto that it didn't matter how hard Naruto (or Lee) worked because he was destined to be a loser and could never change that.
Naruto told him to stop being a bitch and letting destiny decide everything. Which means little coming from Naruto since he turned out to be Ninja Jesus, but their argument was never about how you could surpass talent by working hard. That only applied to Lee and Guy's development.
I will never understand how people misconstrued their entire discussion so much and think that the theme of the series was "hurr hard work > talent".
Naruto couldn't willingly use Kurama's chakra until after the timeskip in Shippuden. His huge chakra stores and life force was because he was an Uzumaki. The whole reason he was so shitty at the start aside from being able to clone spam was specifically because Kurama's chakra was screwing with his ability to mold his natural chakra. It was still a cop out that saved him due to plot at certain times, but his clone spam prior to Shippuden wasn't tied to Kurama at all.

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KNEEL, NARUKEKS

ENTER CHADBBY

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He's a prodigy. He was only a failure because he had no training, parents, his teachers hated him, and the fox was fucking with his chakra control. Do note it was literally IMPOSSIBLE for him to perform the bushin when he was in the academy since they didn't teach chakra control exercises and no one accounted for his massive chakra reserves which made performing the jutsu impossible

Part 1
>Naruto beats a Chuninn while still in the Academy
>Naruto masters a joninn level jutsu (kage bushin) in a few hours
>Naruto masters the tree walking exercise at the same as Sasuke, despite having an exponentially larger chakra pool due to his uzuamaki genes and the Kyuubi sealed inside of him. The more chakra you have the harder it is for you to master chakra control exercises, yet Naruto STILL finished at the same pace that the prodigy Sasuke did. It was also exponentially easier for the "prodigy" because he had a smaller chakra pool
>Naruto masters rasengan in a week
>One month later he catches up to Sasuke in taijutsu just in time for the final fight. The same Sasuke who copied Lee's godly taijutsu

Part 2
>Naruto successfully fuses rasengan with an element in a few days when the prodigies Kakashi, Minato, and Jiraya were unable to do so
>Naruto masters frog kata and sage mode in a week despite Jiraya and Minato being unable to do so in a lifetime
>First person to ever tame the Kyuubi and unlock Bijuu Mode with it
>Naruto discovers a way to fuse sage mode with the kyuubi's chakra despite the two being like oil and water
>EoS Naruto is CASUALLY creating jutsu on the fly AND casually merging numerous elements with rasengan and rasenshuriken. He has near perfect chakra control which should be impossible for someone with his chakra reserves

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Was it really that much “hard work” though? Naruto was able to use that technique easily because of something given to him right after he was born. The “muh hard work” message is only relevant to Rock Lee, who gets BTFO by more talented people all the time (Gaara, Sasuke (after copying his skills), etc).

Should have ended on Pain arc minus the mass ress asspull

you are a brain damaged retard

He was around but never did anything important ever again

full of shit

>no argument

That nuclear reactor us the ONLY reason he dead last. Naruto's taijutsu was fine, he just literally could not do the ninjutsu or genjustu because of his fucked up chakra control caused by the fox.
His academics were also only shitty because he was an orphan who lived by himself in a village where everyone hated him or ignored him. No child under those conditions was going to excel on their own.
See
Once Naruto got some teachers who gave a damn he was easily one of the best ninja of his generation

they couldve made him start his own village and become the his own kage or some shit but nope.

plot prevails I guess

Deal with it leecucks. I'm sorry you were too stupid to understand a series written for children, but getting mad about it now won't change how wrong you are.

>the strongest energy source in the world is sealed inside the MC
>a strong message about hardwork overcoming all odds
Are you retarded?

Okay, interesting point of view.

>>naruto starts out with a strong message about hardwork overcoming all odds
Literally speedreading. When was you EVER told hardworking overcomes all odds? Ignoring the entirety of part 2, Naruto still had the Fox giving him assloads of chakra and Sasuke was an Uchiha. Are you talking about Neji? That was about defying fate, if Neji followed his word he wouldn't have trained so hard to surpass the main branch. Lee? Lee was FODDER since day one.
Naruto's main message was about overcoming hatred. It was always eugenics simulator.

>he was an orphan who lived by himself in a village where everyone hated him or ignored him. No child under those conditions was going to excel on their own
Hiruzen really dropped the ball there didn't he.
>Damn, the 4th Hokage sacrificed himself and his wife to save the village and had to seal the fox into his newborn child as a last resort. I should probably honor his legacy and sacrifice and take care of his son or at least make sure he lives a good life and has people to look after him...
>Nah, I'll just give him a shitty apartment and an allowance every week so he doesn't starve but other than that he's on his own

Lee got sidelined by Might Guy, his sensei who was essentially him but older. Guy got all of the taijutsu fights and all of the 8 gates hype from part 2 onwards. But rejoice leefag, you get a few panels every once in a while of him actually fighting. Kibafags, Shinofags, and Tentenfags can't say the same