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They've all but removed the weapon because that would compromise the economy, which they never will. They'll just make the weapon next to useless.

Stopped playing after they nerfed the short circuit and sandman. Fuck you valve for pandering to the no fun allowed compfags

>is called the sandman because the weapon puts the enemy to "sleep" temporary
>it's not overpowered because it's a risk reward situation where a scunt is running up to an enemy without a gun out and the ball can easily miss
>now it doesn't do shit and a scout using it will just get shot instantly

>NOOOOOO REMOOOOOVE RANDOM CRITS VAAAAAALVE TF2 IS A COMPETETIVE GAME
>I KNOW BECAUSE I AM A TF2 VETERAN THAT BEGAN PLAYING IN 2013

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GRU is still functionally the same weapon and will always be the best heavy melee.

is there a game that fell from glory as hard as tf2 did?

It wasn't compfags, they play their own gamemode with 2/3 of the weapons in the game banned.
It's almost like having STUN EFFECTS IN A FUCKING MOBILITY-BASED FPS is a shitty garbage idea, and tying that stun to THE LITERAL FASTEST FUCKING PROJECTILE IN THE ENTIRE GODDAMN GAME, FASTER THAN HUNTSMAN ARROWS AND TIED WITH THE DIRECT HIT, is just as retarded.
Face it, if you joined a community server and the sandman was a modded custom weapon added by the server owner, you would think it's the stupidest shit ever. Only difference is that Valve added it.

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fists of steel is better if your team doesn't have a medic
the new short circuit is fucking insane though.

toilet brain

There are still human beings playing Teamfortress2?

>it's a risk reward situation where a scunt is running up to an enemy without a gun out and the ball can easily miss
but the ball is only effective at long range, where the scout's other weapons are ineffective, so there's effectively no opportunity cost???

Fists of Steel is basically only useful for retreating and increasing your odds of crossing a sniper sightline and even then the GRU is pretty comparable in functionality. Getting to the front line quickly will always be strong as fuck on heavy.

You would cut the active Spy population in half with a Diamondback nerf. Dr. Enforcicle 2.0 shitters can't play the class without a major crutch.

why does valve suck so fucking hard now? like i wouldn't even care if they just stopped making games and fucked up steam but they really had to "update" their games into shit then abandon them. i miss tf2 and counter strike. i miss the good ol days

See, I don't get assmad when a Sniper one shots me from the other end of the map because I was dancing around out in the open like a retard. I just accept that I made a dumb mistake and move on because I'm having FUN, and like the Sniper, I wish to have fun too.

Holiday Punch shits on all you bitchasses

you're right it's too OP. i hope they remove headshots and backstabs too

>tfw can't say random crits are dogshit without being called an e-celeb cocksucking nigger faggot retard nigger kike chink tranny

Go back to to CS:GO you try-harding tranny. TF2 is a party game.

nobody pre-2011 was complaining about weapons or random crits being broken. everyone understood that tf2 was a fun casual game. wonder what happened

>When you spank a medic with your holiday punch just after he ubered his boyfriend
>his friend is now desperately trying to hop around and stay alive until the animation finishes only to fail because he jumped into your whole team

Yes

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random crits are dogshit

>nobody pre-2011 was complaining about weapons
You either didn't play the game or spent all of your time in 24/7 2fort and Mario Kart servers. People were complaining about weapons before they even released.

shut up you e-celeb cocksucking nigger faggot retard nigger kike chink tranny

this but unironically
remove sniper, map design stopped caring about sightlines after 2007 anyways
nerf medic to compensate
remove spy, shitty gimmick class that must pay for the years of dr. enforcicle it brought into the game
engineer doesn't even need nerfing to compensate he gets shit on six ways from sunday even without sappers

what?
Name maps created after 2012 that had absurd sightlines