>Kotick went on to emphasize that World of Warcraft is one of the few entertainment franchises that generates "over $1 billion" in annual net bookings, alongside Call of Duty and Candy Crush. Other executives on the call noted a huge sign that World of Warcraft's player community is quite healthy.
>"Franchise engagement is at its highest level for this stage ahead of an expansion in a decade," said Activision Blizzard COO Daniel Alegre. It's not completely clear, but that seems to mean that there are more people playing ahead of Shadowlands' release than there were before ever expansion since Cataclysm—so the existing player base is more engaged than they were for Mists of Pandaria, Warlords of Draenor, Legion, or Battle for Azeroth. Alegre also noted that World of Warcraft's monthly active users have been stable and increasing since the launch of Classic last year.
Notice how they use the word "engaged" and don't use any words like "more players" or anything that actually would point out that they have more players now?
Nope. Its still losing players by the thousands each day. Go look at its financials from the shareholder reports, the only income is cash shop based not subs.
Engagement probably means hours played per player per month, micro transactions spent, etc. Like a general metric.
Owen Richardson
Because their monetization is no longer mainly subscriptions. I thought this was clear by this point already
Jaxson Phillips
how many of those sales where refunded
Jaxon Robinson
the lockdowns are making people feel sad, so they are going back to a time when they felt better. this means they are going back to old games like wow, everquest and ff11.
Sure however new expansions sell up to 10 million copies and just as many subs for the first month That's more than ten times any other MMO expansion
Levi Harris
No it won't. Not even close to that
Tyler Cooper
Do you have anything to back this up other than regular Zig Forums schizophrenia?
Carson Campbell
>Its still losing players by the thousands each day Because it's the end of expansion content drought. This is part of the life cycle of WoW. Every expansion and major patch sees a huge surge in players, then a lot of them get bored and quit until the next one.
Justin Collins
Yes They never mention player numbers and only say "engagement" which clearly means they barely have any players playing anymore. If it had more players than ever they would never stop bragging about it. There's a reason why they stopped showing players numbers, the game is dead.
Kayden Fisher
Key word "probably". You'll also notice they don't release subscriber numbers for years now.
I don't think anyone denies they have fewer active players 2 years into the expansion compared to other expansions, but the amount of people buying the expansion on launch day is still really high
Nathaniel Anderson
Doesn't Shadowlands require SSD as minimum?
Jaxon Brown
>highest number of preorder ever >the game is dead I don't think that's how it works
Jonathan Nguyen
>but the amount of people buying the expansion on launch day is still really high Oh how high? please give me some numbers
Nathan Rogers
no
Thomas Roberts
Classic TBC is going to increase subs by 10x WoW is not going anywhere at least not for another 4 years when classic wotlk is over
aren't day 1 sales at steady 3m+ the past 3 expansion? probably not 10m but 5m+ between expansions easily
in comparison ffxiv stormblood sold around 100k copies
Luis Lee
Yeah the game has the worst pop in and stutters I've ever seen if you're playing on a slow hard drive nowadays. But you can get by if you're only doing like.... normal raids.
Evan Morgan
>know couple of people who swore off on WoW >crawl back for a new expansion >leave outraged after the month is up >cycle repeats for every single expansion
Some people are too invested to give up so it really is akin to a drug addict situation.
If they had real balls they would just terminate their account.
Hudson Sanders
So you're just talking out of your ass?
Aaron Reyes
the only issue I had in BFA with HDD is slow loading assets when using a portal to teleport to a new region (especially orgrimmar and dalaran), but that's only an issue if you're autistic and can't wait a few seconds
Jackson Reyes
>still buying a full priced game that has a paid subscription and microtranscations on top of that EA could blush at how Blizzard milks WoW and still gets away with it.
Alexander Young
Aren't you?
Easton Hall
Can’t fucking wait for sulvanas to die
Leo Johnson
In what way am I talking out of my ass? You can clearly see the spike in sub numbers for WoW Not only that but anecdotally I know a lot of people who get back into WoW when a new expansion launches so it's definitely a phenomena
Angel Bell
I prefer the sub. Keeps the rifraff out. Kind of like how people spend $200 a month for a gym so they don't have to deal with poors.
Thomas Rodriguez
>shadowlands saw an enthusiastic response from players in its public setsting Of what? How much of a broken mess it is? Why would they not be enthusiastic of the next Bathesda MMO?
Of course there is a spike but there's nothing even close pointing that they are going to have 10m players. The game barely have players as it is and most of them are bots.
Jaxson Mitchell
>In what way am I talking out of my ass? You don't know what the actual numbers are
