>Total sales were just 60% of their estimates, implying that the game cost over $100m to make but has only sold 3m or so copies
>Marvel Avengers- it looks like the total cost of the game is closer to $170m-$190m given they only expenses 70% of cost in the qtr plus marketing costs. Why someone didn’t say stop post the multiplayer beta will remain a mystery. Square are adamant they can make a recovery ....
What happened to Square? They're suffering from Capcom syndrome?
Charles Flores
Thank fucking god it bombed, hopefully Squenix learns to fuck off with their soulless microtransaction grindfests. Amazing that even room temperature IQ capefags weren't interested, it must have been truly awful
That happens when they invest in shitty western shit. They should just stick with eastern kino.
Andrew Davis
Yuji Naka will never get work again if when this bombs.
Bentley Rivera
Almost all their western developed games outsell their Jap developed games but for some bizarre reasons SE still considers their western studios to be failures while their own much more costly Jap studios to be massive successes.
Nathan Thomas
Who would have thought MUA3 would have been a better ROI than Marvel's Avengers?
>Make a super mediocre game and hope it sells on the license >it doesn't Why do publishers keep falling for this? Time and time again it has been proven that what actually sells the best are games with heart and soul. The only shits that get away with releasing the same shit year after year are Assassins Creed Games, Call of Duty games and Sports games.
Chase Cruz
It's fascinating that Endgame seems to have had such a negative impact on the long term success of these franchises. Literally too big for its own good.
Parker Ortiz
No, everyone felt no love at first glance and while first impressions of a game can't properly assess a game's experience, it was in this case.
Gabriel Martinez
This is actually the hilarious part. Tomb Raider dabs on DQ and FF combined on their recent main releases
Gavin Thomas
>Bombs At this point I think they're well aware enough of the market for this type of game that the budget for it was kept within reason. It'll probably do "fine" for its scale
Gavin Gonzalez
Except games like KH3 and FF7R sold 5 million+ a piece
Andrew Barnes
>The deus ex games didn't sell well? Mankind Divided sold with lukewarm numbers compared to Human Revolution, but it still is profitable. Blame Square Enix with their bad promotion of their western games. If they avoid their bullshit augs lives matter and augment your pre-order fiasco, none of the backlash will happen to the IP and it could probably sold really well.
Logan Fisher
>what happened to square Square has been full retard for 20 years. The past 10 years have been the worst. >merge with (sell to) worse company when at peak >mmo constantly on life support >repackaging/remaking titles into half-assed ports >licensing IP to mobile cash grab 3rd parties, mostly gacha
Thomas Martin
I wonder if they're regretting it a little, they were still based for going through with it instead of just forever putting the finale off.
Liam Perez
WOW! That's almost as many sales as the worst selling Tomb Raider game got.
Grayson Powell
>Look up Square Enix America >It's obviously in California
What is with big companies landing there? It's basically the laughing stock of regular Americans.
Jason Kelly
Didnt help MD also had performance- and optimisation issues on launch.
Wyatt Russell
>that dwindling chance of a mankind divided sequel
>fucking up the biggest IP on the planet >while ruining all your other IPs
BIG YIKES
Adam Parker
>>merge with (sell to) worse company when at peak The Spirits Within knocked them into a very precarious position. Of course, making that in the first place was also a terrible move.
>>mmo constantly on life support FFXIV is the most successful MMO currently on the market.
Bentley White
they survived FFXIV, they'll survive anything. they got two subscription based MMOs and multiple Gacha mobile games, they're fine
Noah Sullivan
>FFXIV is the most successful MMO currently on the market. thats wow, but yea xiv is doing fine
The first one did, then it was all downhill. According to the only source I can find, Shadow of the Tomb Raider didn't even make it to 5.
Kevin Morris
>biggest IP on the planet People like the films but nobody gives a fuck about Marvel IP. The game is not the films. It doesn't have the stars. It doesn't have the snappy writing. Nobody cares about the game.
Austin Myers
Wait, it’s Square’s? I thought it was Sega re skinning a Nights game
Jaxon Myers
explain to me again why the fuck Square bought Eidos?
Oliver Diaz
They didn't only survived from an abysmal MMO, but a big failure of a movie also. Though I can say that this is the end of Crystal Dynamics, we all know Square will not pull out an FFXIV from this and to be fair, CD teams are really fucking slow right now. Been following the game since it came out and it's painful how slow things are coming out and how many stupid decisions they decided to make.
David Bell
they released it literally after al the Marvel hype died down. It's like what they're trying to do with the MGS adaptation. That ship sailed off years ago. Good luck making a profit off of MGS hype in the year of our lord 2020
Zachary Peterson
Who knows what goes in the heads of those people but they must be feeling pressured to reignite public interest.
People buy trash games all the time.
Justin Hughes
They shouldve just made MvC4 like everyone actually wanted.
Noah Ward
how do all of these zoomers have so much money to be giving these mobile developers so much goddamned profit
the latest tomb raider sold worse than either game. like only 4 million.
Christopher Gutierrez
Square thought it was gonna make them money but it backfired hilariously, and now they are too proud to just gut their western trash so they just keep pumping money into it fruitlessly. The western shit has such overinflated budgets that they still lose money after selling millions and millions of copies, but that's typical of western production.
Angel Ortiz
It's by NiGHTS' creator but published by SE.
Ayden Phillips
Tencent won't let them die. Tencent needs them alive.
Christian Nelson
>FFXIV trannies really thinking their MMO is biggest in the world.
Because all the money in video games is in the western market and Square doesn't have a clue how to make games for the west. They tried for a bit and failed abysmally so they decided they'd just buy a western publisher and have the west make the games for them. Problem is they can't help but interfere even though they've demonstrated over and over again they don't have a clue what they're doing.
Ryan Lewis
goddamn japs and their fucking business etiquette
Andrew Butler
>Same day as Monster Hunter Rise
Yikes.......
Gavin Harris
SE has their minds in the gutters. Trying to attract hypebeat with low quality games isnt going to work anymore. For some reason they only want to put slight effort into their best sellers. Money made them lazy and im pretty sure they're fine anyway because of all the gacha.
Dominic Anderson
>The western shit has such overinflated budgets that they still lose money after selling millions and millions of copies, but that's typical of western production. You do know it's Square we're talking about here, right? That's how they run their Jap studios too. Remember when FFXV was in development forever and needed to sell 10 million copies to break even and it didn't even come close?
Brandon Jackson
why the FUCK would they make this game. it's the most generic, uninspired piece of shit i've ever seen
John Sullivan
Avengers was a mediocre shell of a generic game. Sometimes I don't understand how the people who come up with these ideas get so high in the ranks in the first place
Jacob Parker
Nah I suspect this was a 2017 game that took 3 years to finished and IT SHOWS
Gabriel Allen
>make an Avengers game post Endgame when people have had their fill >set it in a vague Avengers Assemble era/look >forego any sort of non-movie style AND don't get likeness rights with the actors, leading to what looks like your local cosplay group doing a birthday party >make it the most generic, cookie cutter, lowest common denominator gameplay possible while Batman and Spider-man exist >load it with corporate tie-ins and awful microtransactions and grinding akin to Anthem and Destiny; two other flops
It's the definition of soulessness. If t came out 5 years ago it might have done okay.