PC talk

Let's have a general for all things PC.
If there's any anons that like discussuing these things maybe you can illuminate me.
Im trying to leave consoles but am confused.
Is 16gb the absolute minimum?
I've heard the same for ssd? Also how does it work when a build has a ssd and a hdd?
I liked consoles cause even new games would just work and there were no problems, from lurking I know sometimes components don't get along and cause issues so should I get a pre built to avoid this and also have a warranty?
Im hoping to play mostly old games but would be nice to have the option to play new ones like rdr2 or cyberpunk seeing as I'll be spending money and won't have a console.

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Honestly for a first build I still recommend going with 16gb yeah. Get two sticks of 8gb and as games get more intensive in the next 3-5 years upgrade to 32. Make sure you're getting ddr4 sticks, more pricey but it's worth.

16 GB is the minimum these days. You run your OS on your ssd while you have your games saved on your hdd. You do not need a prebuilt. Use the pcpartpicker site for checking parts with compatibility issues.

>Im trying to leave consoles

wrong time you fuckin braindead simp. you should be doin d opposite right now. DYOR why retard

>PC
This is a video game board. Computers are for work, not games. Go to /g/ if you want to talk about computers.

>tfw want a 3080
>not in stock anywhere in my country
>have to wait until they stock up again
>only other option is shelling out double the money for a 3090 or buying a 3070
>neither of which is what I want

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This. get a 250-500 SSD and just chuck your OS on it and use the rest of space for the games that have long loading times or the games you play regularly, then get a 2-3tb HHD

>Is 16gb the absolute minimum
i dunno i still never go over 8 gigs of used memory. might as well get the extra though memory is cheap

New consoles look shitty and I've spent too many years without mods etc.
/g/ said the opposite, of the PC is for gaming take it to Zig Forums.
Thanks, I'll get atleast 16 then.

16g is more than you'll need for most games made before 2015. It's only very recently that shit devs have begun demanding retarded specs without being able to ever present a game that actually justifies it. 32gb ram and 280gb space for Black Ops Cold War, ridiculous.

I use an SSD for my windows installation so it loads everything in seconds. It's 300gb. The games I want to load fast I install to a partition on that drive, the rest I install on a regular HD because I don't care if it loads for 50 seconds instead of 12 if it's a grand strategy I'll be spending hours on without loading again.

Thats good to know thanks anons

Motivate me to move my PC to a new case.

>Also how does it work when a build has a ssd and a hdd

you just have multiple places to save files and install shit. i have 5 physical drives in my box not counting externals

What is the best HDD for long term storage?

Usually one installs the OS and main programs on the ssd that you want to load fast and everything else goes to the hdd. Something about how data is written on an ssd prevents it from doing something important. I don't remember the technicalities but what I do know is that you should only install things on it that are games and stuff like that. Not music, videos, etc media in general.

Your country has 3070 and 3090 stock?

If you don't move your PC to a new case I'll never leak Ivanka Trump's nudes.

Also for cases you honestly can cut corners. Don't fall for the RGB meme, if you find a case that has everything you want a happens to have lights, sure go for it. I spent maybe 1.5kUSD on a setup recently and went for a cheap ass case.
Here's mine. Deepcool Kendomen ATX
Pros.
>Good cooling.
>Good expansion slots.
>Quiet.
Cons:
>Shit wiring setups, you're backend will look like a mess at best, frontend won't look much better.

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What the fuck does this mean.

Just get a Seagate or WD.
Don't get Toshiba.

Meh. I can fuck a 2D version of her anyway in SS

You'll curse us to another 5 years of mediocre games unless you make the swap.

I'd say get a 1tb drive and just put everything on it, never had trouble with space but if you need more you can just buy a second drive down the line.

For me the smaller the better rather than lights and shit.
For building, I know there's endless guides online but in reality how straightforward is it?
Ill check the site someone posted above to check compatability but
I've seen anons here having issues with parts not working or making funny noises etc. I dont want any bs though ,I really jsut want it to work and be reliable without problems, so am afraid to build anything myself.
I had problems getting bootcsmp to run on my mac and life is too short for that sort of hassle.

Building honestly couldn't be simpler. The motherboard manual covers everything you need to know and any parts you're still unsure about as you mentioned there are a million tutorials. Compatibility issues are rare and if you use PCPartPicker as one user mentioned it'll do most of the computability shit for you. If you're still unsure at that point I'd recommend going to a pc building forum with your full part list, or even as much as I hate to say it... r*ddit and see what they have to say. You've got it user, I built my first PC a couple months ago pretty much blind and aside from one issue with one of my wires not working correctly, and fixing it myself it was great to learn how these things work and go together, even in the limited way I learned.

If you are going to get into PC gaming then you are going to have to understand how both the hardware and software works when troubleshooting. You can run into the same issues with a prebuilt as you would with a custom. I suggest going on the internet and spend some time looking up videos / articles to learn the components of a PC and how they work. Once you get the fundamentals down then you will build on all that knowledge with time and practice.

Yeah, but only 3090 for MSI and Zotac. Asus pretty much got all bought the moment it came in. The 3070 we have Asus, Zotac, MSI and Gigabyte.

>tripfag thinks he knows something
You have proved your retardness over month, now shoo.

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>Leave console gaming a couple months ago, mostly looking forward to modding
>spend several hours modding a few bethesda games
>So much frustration trying to get mods to cooperate and understanding shitty english in readmes
>Finally get it all to work with little to no crashing
>Never play it because it doesn't feel as clean as the vanilla game
Modding is just for people who have nothing to play. Honest to God, stick to consoles if modding is one of your main reasons for switching.
Also prebuilts aren't as bad as everyone says. You can get pretty decent parts into them for much cheaper than building it yourself depending on where you go. Just make sure you don't get it from someone who voids your warranty when you open the pc.

Kek yeah looking forward to modding morrowind.
Im looking to update but thought if im spending so much itd be nice to also have the option for computing and not just a new console only for games and youtube.
Another reason is being able to play games no matter the platform like Halo or gears etc.no way I'd buy a ps5 or xsx in reality.

>knowing only the meme gamebryo modding
Sucks to be you
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