People who are good at Castlevania, I have lore questions.
>Dracula is supposed to be revived every hundred years, but in the 1800's it happened like, every 10-15 years, why?
>Richter is supposed to be the most powerful Belmont but he needed help to kill Dracula, and several Belmont's didn't, how is he the most powerful?
>Death dies in like, every damn game, who is resurrecting him?
>in Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia you were trained to kill dracula specifically, but then the power of Dominus is needed to undo the seal, because you were secretly being used to resurrect him, but then you have to kill your brother cuz he stole the powers but he was a good guy and then your dad just undoes the seal without Dominus, so what the fuck was the point of Dominus and your training? If he wanted to resurrect Dracula why did he give you all the tools necessary to kill him, when he could of just resurrected him whenever he wanted?
>At the end of Symphony of The Night Dracula apologizes to Alucard and Lisa and begs for forgiveness for his crimes against humanity, but then gets resurrected like 10 more times after this and tries to keep being evil, what was up with that?
please answer this series doesn't make any fucking sense.
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>>Dracula is supposed to be revived every hundred years, but
Yes every he is naturally reborn with full power every 100 years but you can summon at any point time not at full power though
Richter didnt need help
>Richter didn't need help
He mad Maria to help him and at the beginning of Symphony Of The Night it replays the final battle from Rondo Of Blood and she casts a protective spell on him
>Symphony Of The Night it replays the final battle from Rondo Of Blood and she casts a protective spell on him
That is only if you suck and die
If anything Richter saved Maria just like with the other maidens
I mean, either way, it still has the possibility of happening, whereas characters like Simon did everything 100% solo. And what about the other like 3 points? Why does Death keep coming back, why does Dracula seemingly repent but then just keep being evil, and why is everything in Order of Ecclesia fucking retarded?
Mosquitos are agents of Dracula.
>>Death dies in like, every damn game, who is resurrecting him?
Well you cant kill death
>>in Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia you were trained to kill dracula specifically, but then the power of Dominus is needed to undo the seal, because you were secretly being used to resurrect him, but then you have to kill your brother cuz he stole the powers but he was a good guy and then your dad just undoes the seal without Dominus, so what the fuck was the point of Dominus and your training? If he wanted to resurrect Dracula why did he give you all the tools necessary to kill him, when he could of just resurrected him whenever he wanted?
It was never explained but but maybe the magic released during the batlle helped? Maybe?
>>At the end of Symphony of The Night Dracula apologizes to Alucard and Lisa and begs for forgiveness for his crimes against humanity, but then gets resurrected like 10 more times after this and tries to keep being evil, what was up with that?
I think he loses he memory everytime he is reborn kinda like waking up after being wasted
It's almost as if story in videogames is just an after thought. Who cares why you get to beat up Dracula's minions as long as you can do it in a new game?
>you cant kill death
But with strange aeons even death may die.
We don't know why he kept coming so frequently in the 1800s but it may have to do with not being killed by a Belmont + Vampire Killer.
Where does Richter being the strongest come from anyway? Oficial I mean, in any case being helped doesn't exactly makes him less stronger depending of the circunstances.
Death exists regardless, but he is tied to Drac.
Considering chaos is the force behind Dracula in Aria, he is probably not the same after Alucard kills him.
>Well you cant kill death
I mean, what's the merit in fighting him then? Does he give up without actually dying? He's a shitty minion if that's the case.
>It was never explained
Nothing in OOE is explained. Not explained well at least.
>loses memory
But he remembers all the belmonts and shit. And he remembers his past defeats so I don't see why he'd lose memory of the last couple moments of one specific death.
Julius is actually considered the strongest Belmont they progressively get more powerful with each generation.
>so what the fuck was the point of Dominus and your training? If he wanted to resurrect Dracula why did he give you all the tools necessary to kill him, when he could of just resurrected him whenever he wanted?
The implication Barlowe makes when he's trying to resurrect Dracula is that he's having to sacrifice his life to perform the resurrection. Presumably his original plan was to sacrifice Shanoa, along with the Dominus glyphs so Dracula could reabsorb them and return to full power
He asks for forgiveness from his son in a brief moment of vulnerability, he still hates humanity as a whole dude.
Dracula himself answered the why he kept coming back question. He was called back early by humans who wished to pay him tribute.
>loses to soma before fully getting dracula's power
Sure bud
The curse has him on autorevive with a ~100 year cooldown. This doesn't stop others from using other means to revive him.
Most powerful Belmont of his time. He has latent magical power that gives him the edge over his predecessors. Also if I remember right he canonically solos Dracula.
It's less that Death dies and more that his ties to the physical world are broken and he's pulled back into wherever he came from. He can't truly die, he's just banishable.
I don't know, but I can probably spitball a handful of theories. I reckon Barlowe wanted to be alive for the new world order.
Beats me. Probably just a dissonance for the sake of the game series. Gotta have that Drac fight.
The merit in killing death is that the fucker is in your way and you killing him prevents him from coming back to interrupt you anytime soon.
As for Dracula, it's kinda obvious Iga wanted to do something with him and then it went nowhere because of the nature of the series, he has his memories but he is a slave to chaos in a way according to AoS.
>why does Dracula seemingly repent but then just keep being evil
I dunno why does a creature constantly revived through demonic rituals by hellish monsters keep being evil
>Dracula is supposed to be revived every hundred years, but in the 1800's it happened like, every 10-15 years, why?
People doing magic shit. "It was not by my hand that I am once again given flesh. I was brought here by humans."
Tribute?
He steals men's souls and make them his slaves.
>At the end of Symphony of The Night Dracula apologizes to Alucard and Lisa and begs for forgiveness for his crimes against humanity, but then gets resurrected like 10 more times after this and tries to keep being evil, what was up with that?
You know how chairs and cabinets are inanimate objects, but you still yell at them when you stub your toe? Dracula just really fucking hates Belmondos
What is a man? Nothing but a miserable pile of singles! Enough talk! Check em!
Soma has Dracula's power from the start and is knowingly utilizing it by the time he fights Julius. IIRC Julius states that he was holding back during that fight despite making the entire fucking castle start to crumble in the background
Yeah, but if all he needed was a life, then why not sacrifice her without dominus? I get he might revive weaker, but training her the entire time to hate him, giving her vampire killing skills, and ridiculous magical powers to nuke him seems counter intuitive. He could of probably just raised her to revive dracula considering he got her as a young orphan.
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>canonically solo's dracula
In symphony of the night he has Maria cast spells if you suck. Idk if that's canon or not, but he has the opportunity, and plenty of belmonts have solo'd drac before.
>just banishable
Idk where that's stated but it makes sense, thanks user
>Alive
Sure, but like I said above, it's weird to train her to effectively kill drac if he wanted to revive drac, and if all the seal needed was a life, that seems easier that risking his whole plan on a girl, and if it needed to be a powerful sacrifice, why not have her undo the seal while she only had a couple parts of dominus?
Well he's done it 100 times before and could repent, I don't know why he'd say that shit for no reason.
That happened prior to the 1800's though, it's the quote from Symphony Of The Night which was a natural resurrection. He's referring to being brought back by the evil in mens hearts.
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A belmont would of gotten dubs
>t's the quote from Symphony Of The Night which was a natural resurrection
Rondo of Blood and Symphony were both Shaft rezzing him.
Was it? I need to replay Rondo Of Blood.
the intro of Symphony is the final boss of Rondo.
Your post is as empty as your dubs! Mankind ill needs a dub like yours! Check em!
Yes, he was brought back by Shaft doing a human sacrifice.
It's why the intro stage of Rondo is a burning city, Dracula figured he'd get a head start and try to kill the Belmont before people realize he was back early.
Yeah I know. I just forgot he was brought back by Shaft in that game
>Yeah, but if all he needed was a life,
He's an extremely powerful magician who has to go full arab on the seal to break it, he couldn't just sacrifice any random peasants.
If we're asking questions, I have one. Alucard solo's his dad without Vampire Killer in SotN. Why don't he just stay around and kill him every time he resurrects?
>extremely powerful magician
Who was almost dead though, and if you just needed a super powerful sacrifice, why not reign Shanoa in while she has some but not all of the Dominus? With it she was able to 1 shot drac, no way like half of it wouldn't of been able to break the seal. And still doesn't make sense to raise her as a vampire killer anyways
Julius is the one who permanently killed Dracula in the Castle Wars in 1999.
Also this. He didn't want to kill Soma. In all the bad endings for Soma's games, if he becomes Dracula he gets killed by Julius because it's what Soma asked him to do.
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Human sacrifice in 1792 to resurrect Dracula.
As for Dracula apologizing to Alucard and Lisa, it's possible that he knows what he is doing is wrong yet he continues to act out of rage and spite.
He's a really heavy sleeper.
>Yeah, but if all he needed was a life, then why not sacrifice her without dominus?
because Albus ran off with Dominus and Barlowe needed her to get it back so Albus couldn't oppose them. If you are talking about before all of that went down, Ecclesia was trying to put up a front as a legitimate vampire hunting organization endorsed by the church. One could speculate any number of reasons why Barlowe wanted to do that, but either way it necessitated some actual vampire hunter training.
>Well he's done it 100 times before and could repent, I don't know why he'd say that shit for no reason.
Dracula seems to change in appearance and personality each time he's fought. It may be one of those cases where he comes back as a different person. We already see a precedence for this with Soma, it's possible that what happened to Dracula whenever he revived before that was just a toned down version of his reincarnation into Soma. Anyway, point is, Dracula is a monster who keeps the company of other monsters from within a Satanic castle filled with dark magics. All that stuff probably fucks with his head. He couldn't repent even if he wanted to. He was just lamenting what happened to him at that point in time.
Alucard hates himself for hurting his father, even if it was justified. He sleeps in a coffin as self-punishment until he has no choice. By the time Soma is around, he's gotten over it.
That has more to do with the Shinto magic and the Eclipse though, if it wasn't for that he would have just killed him for another 100 years.
And yes, he was holding back against Soma, not sure what that other user was talking about.
He needs his beauty sleep.
Don't forget Belmonts are usually late 20s when they kill draft. But julius was fucking 55 in aos. Old as hell, holding back, whip needed due to leaving it there as a lynchpin, and he still shattered the castle and the barrier even alucard couldn't. What a beast
>Who was almost dead
It's anime, blowing yourself up is your most powerful attack
>if you just needed a super powerful sacrifice
Pretty sure you need to physically destroy the seal.
>why not reign Shanoa in while she has some but not all of the Dominus?
Probably because it's more powerful while the three pieces are together. IIRC she cannot ala wackba without all the pieces.
>And still doesn't make sense to raise her as a vampire killer anyways
Barlow was corrupted by the power leaking from the seal, he probably truly intended to dab on Dracula for a while.
>Barlow was corrupted by the power leaking from the seal, he probably truly intended to dab on Dracula for a while.
Considering what happened to Maxim, that makes the most sense
Not to mention he only just got his memories back, meaning his vampire hunting skills had been out of practice for who knows how long