So now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that it's better than the dualshit 5?

Sticks are limiting game design and balance, and games made with them in mind are slower and shallower than those made to use mouse or gyro. You might be doing fancy moves with them but you're still a chump.

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Gyro aiming is the future for controllers, most people just haven't realized it yet.

no thanks if it's as durable as the original xbox one controller

mice and gyro break game design. You play RE4 with motion controls and it's too easy.

Mouse and keyboard is the future for shooters on console, some people just haven't realized it yet.

Because it's designed around stick aim.
Now let's take a look at the opposite happening- in Overwatch on consoles Torbjorn is heavily nerfed because his auto-aiming turrets mowed everything down, whereas on PC he's a borderline joke character.

No, it will not happen. Games have to be designed around the lowest common denominator, and Wii has shown that the only way to make people use extra peripherals is to pack them in with the game. If gyro was the default then those who don't use KBM wouldn't be as disadvantaged with the hardware they have, but with sticks they are hopelessly less capable, so KBM is more likely to be disallowed.

doesnt this shit use batteries?
in 2020?
if it happens to use that shit u better off yourself now shill because thats fucking pathetic.

you are coping

I can hear your third world seethe all the way from where I currently reside- which would be Flavortown, Kansas.

This is why I'm glad xbox has Kb+M support.

Best controller in the last decade easily

It's worse just because it's dpad is trash for fighting games, DS will always have the better dpad

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How many Xbox games will have KBM as the primary input option at the expense of degenerate stickfags?
NONE. ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THEM. I can assure you vast majority of them won't even have kbm SUPPORT, even the ones where it is appropriate.
It was our chance to eradicate stick aiming once and for all, but Xbox BLEW IT. So many games will suffer because of that, and since this is likely the last real console generation before singularity it will solidify the gaming conventions in this caveman state of affairs.

The Dpad alone makes this controller amazing. I actually favor using the stick for anything including 2D platformers but finally a Dpad feels good enough for me to actually want to use it.

DS has the better d-pad location, but Xbox has the better d-pad this time around.

Expansion pak when?

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still coping lmao

>Flavortown, Kansas
Fucking based.

>this dpad
>better
lol

no

>that dpad
>better
lol

ya

So do the playstation...?

it feels pretty nice. it's not too intrusive IMO

yeah but playstation is gay. more like gaystation tbqhwy.

the intellectual's choice

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I've never had success with a webbed dpad for fighting games, I have multiple Xbone controllers for my PC and they cannot do quartercircles for shit.

*toddler's