>same old Legion BFA expansion formula >4 new zones >7 new dungeons >most specs play the same >same old mythic+ grind >same old world quest grind >borrowed power system will be a mess on launch >most specs will feel worse than they did in 8.3 due to losing more than gaining, just like they felt like shit in 8.0 after you lost all the artifact stuff and stats and gained...azerite traits? >pvp guaranteed to be unbalanced >pve guaranteed to be unbalanced >only 1 new raid for 6+ months on 4 difficulties which you can't even access until 3 weeks after launch >rep grind for flying >fuck tons of boosters >only new feature torghast will get boring after a few weeks, just like every rogue like game >numerous complaints still in beta even after the pushback >ultimately, same old game - nothing new or fun is being added
Explain to me why wow shills unironically think this won't be another BFA 2.0 launch? A fucking mediocre disaster. I expect everyone but the autists to quin within a month, just like they did for bfa and just how they did in legion.
Were you expecting anything different? Just don't buy it. Don't bother, it's that simple.
Caleb Nelson
BFA launch was a massive success, though. It didn't get bad until everyone had been at the endgame for a while.
Easton Cruz
I've been playing this game since the original beta. I bought BFA late and did the first raid the week it launched before quitting. The game is just an unfun hamster wheel at this point. The classes have been getting worse and worse with every expansion(starting in WOD). I kept and eye on SL to see if anything looked promising and this will be the first expansion I don't buy. I've written WoW off as a lost cause. The devs just double down on all off their shitty design decisions that no one wants.
Angel Bennett
>it's gonna be good. but not great honestly user, I doubt it will even be 'good'. The delay was justified and got me optimistic considering what beta was like, but to only push it back 1 month was a mistake. Chances are it will be mediocre at best, and hopefully (good riddance) it will start to ACTUALLY die
How was it a success? There was fuck all todo, azerite were a fail and every spec felt worse. Did we play the same game? It was just mythic+ spam
Grayson Morgan
>How was it a success? It sold more copies in the first couple days than any other expansion.
Henry Stewart
I wish I played the BFA you did.
Nathaniel Russell
Im talking out of gameplay and enjoyment point of view. It was boring and painfully average no matter how many stats you pull out. Name me one thing you enjoyed? Can you ever see yourself playing a classic BFA server?
John Smith
Stop talking about this shit company, user. People will stop sending money their way if you do.
Parker Anderson
So that means the expansion must be good? And people aren't fucking stupid and uncanny consumers of crap? People still buy mounts for that game. Imagine that; paying real money for something that doesn't exist
Matthew Flores
>pvp guaranteed to be unbalanced >pve guaranteed to be unbalanced Fucking retarded bullet point right here, when in the game's history has this ever NOT been true? Literally, and i do mean literally never
>So that means the expansion must be good? When the fuck did anyone say that?
Wyatt Ward
It has never been as bad as it was in BFA, user did you even play? You wanna compare tbc/wotlk pvp/arena/bg/raid/dungeon balance with shadowlands?
Eli Lopez
>So that means the expansion must be good? All he said was that it had a successful launch. Which it did.
Brayden Collins
It did have a successful launch; it launched. Is that the least you'd expect?
Jaxson Murphy
Who cares. The first two weeks will be extremely fun, even BFA was decent during the first two weeks. Then I'll clear the Heroic raid once and probably quit. Maybe I'll stick around for a few months like I did in legion until I cleared Heroic Nighthold and then uninstall.
Only problem is if I want to play Paladin or Mage.
Brandon Wood
I wish I had that delusion. BfA was a dumpster fire pretty much from the start and the patch they had to rush to salvage it did not make things better. Legion was actually good for nuWoW, and while people hope for SL to be good, it absolutely won't. There is a 0% chance it will be.
Owen Williams
Feels like we either played a different game or people that post here are unironically 90IQ or less. Have no idea how anyone can say first few weeks of BFA were not bad, lmao.
Evan Thompson
WOW is pretty good value considering how trivial it is to play for free. I keep it installed just to goof off in random BGs with buddies. I don't think anyone really takes it seriously anymore
Jayden Reed
Self-aware blizzdrone here. I keep buying the expacs because the art and music are always great. It still gets old after a few weeks obviously, I mostly play this like a single player game until I've seen all the content and sub back when there's new content. If you've been subbed monthly for the last few years, you're a fucking cuck and on a whole other level of stockholm syndrome.
Cameron Rodriguez
I just don't feel any hype about Shadowlands at all. It's like all the fancy paint has been scrubbed off the Skinner Box and we can see all the cynical game design underneath the surface.
There are just too many cool games either out or coming out fairly soon that make WoW look like complete shit. Why grind rep when I could be having a blast in Demon's Souls? And Cyberpunk will be out soon.
It's a generalisation but the only people left playing WoW are the addicted, the sunk cost fallacy victims, and newbs who bought it to see what the fuss was about. Everyone else left it in the past where it belongs.
Aaron Long
Should have pushed it all the way to december, maybe even ‘21, people can play naxx or level some alts in the meantime.
Austin Ramirez
>how trivial it is to play for free Where do you get your gold?
Asher Campbell
>BFA launch was a massive success Financially, maybe. The only people i saw who didn’t react negatively were those who didn’t play legion.
Andrew Mitchell
I already bought the expac, so I feel obligated to play it.
I will level to 60, run a few dungs, then I'm unsubbing till the next expac.(If I bother buying it.)
Blake Parker
WoW is not a single player game.
Adam Garcia
That's like saying the next sonic game is gonna be good. Sonic and WoW both suck and were never good but you've become blinded by nostalgia
Nicholas Butler
>You wanna compare tbc/wotlk pvp/arena/bg/raid/dungeon balance Damn you're right, Death Knight steamrolling for an entire expac must have been in my head