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being called art is the highest form of mockery
change my mind

The art style and story can be an art, but since it's interactive it's not really.

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>And you may recall, the criticism I got for meeting with the leaders in Silicon Valley, when I was trying to work out an agreement dealing with them protecting intellectual property for artists in the United States of America. And at one point, one of the little creeps sitting around that table, who was a multi- — close to a billionaire — who told me he was an artist because he was able to come up with games to teach you how to kill people, you know the ——

>CW: Like video games.

>Yeah, video games.

Xbox BTFO

Yes but not on xbox.

Well what's xbox waiting for to show their art ? I've been waiting for 20 years and all they have is muh fps, muh racing game, muh tps cover shooter

room temperature IQ

>Mohamed

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move along

Give me a valid definition of art that prohibits interaction.

There is no such thing as art, it's all just atoms arranged in certain ways.

Sentience is just chemical reactions.

youtu.be/3qFGYrl0FVQ

Is that why they mostly make GAAS shit?

then there is no such thing as anything, so we shouldn't call anything the way we call it

Yet they hire studios to rush out beta games to shove on their rental subscription service.

Bravo.

what game?

>since it's interactive it's not really.
Crazy idea, but all art is interactive

based

What did Mohamed say? I want his expert opinion

holy crap. Video Games are definitely art now. I was wrong. This is good shit

wow look at mr smart scientician over here

No!

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Xbox exclusives prove that games will never be art

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I hate people like these
>Say games are art and they should be taken seriously.
>Mention a myriad of things about a game
>Act passionate about games
>Sees somebody taking a game seriously, even getting angry or might fight with somebody about it, they backpeddal and say that it's just a game and tell them it's ridiculous to take it so seriously like that.
It's so hypocritical.
Fuck these people they want people to take it seriously but treat it like something stupid when it's convenient.

I hate that statement.
I’ll say a lot of different art forms go into creating a game, much like various art forms go into creating a movie. I’d say certain team members, like the modelers, are artists. But I hate calling the product itself an art piece. Mainly because I feel the statement “games are art” is often misused.

video games are video games.

games can have artistic designs and values, but its still a video game. its not art. its. a. video. game. G A M E.

Yes.

Why is Xbox using a steven crowder "nazi" meme?

lol

Imagines are forbidden by the prophet (PBUH)

Of course they are art, how can they fucking not be, they are the sum of many straight forward craftings that by themselves are just straight forward art like music and artwork but half of the troglodytes here or anywhere think art must be something 2deep4 appriciated by wine sipping intellectuals (or pseudo intellectuals if the thought angers you), so this retarded debate will never end.

>Art isn’t interactive
Holy balls, you are an idiot

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Art is the embodiment of somebody's vision made absolute.

Games are inherently not art, they're games. They have players, rules and varied forms of outcomes. Video games can have elements of art in them, but they are not in themselves art. Just in the same way a football match is not art.

You can't “win“ art.

Games are closer to sports.

Mohamed Enieb.

I like video games but come on, you know that's bullshit.
If video games are art, I'd say all of them are pretentious as fuck especially on those who tries to be artsy in a way like Journey.

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Nobody wants video games to be considered art, they are too low quality, childish and lack cultural value, history and mass appeal. Only incels who are begging to be accepted by society want video games to be considered a high form of art and everybody knows this so why would people with actual taste listen to you retards?
Stop trying to force this meme, video games will never be art.

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They are right. If movies can be considered it then vidya can. But the same problem with the movies, big companies don't care for art, they want the cheapest lowest common denominator item to get maximum revenue.

>shader dlc art
tweaktown.com/news/75920/halo-infinites-shader-like-color-coatings-will-be-sold-as-mtx/index.html

That sounds like it mostly would pertain to competitive natures games.
Are games that are story centered still prohibited because of the rules you stated?
If another artistic medium creates an exhibit or piece uses elements like player, rules, and varied outcomes, does that not make it art anymore?

We can't debate this question until we all agree on the definition of art.

Only after agreeing on that can we argue if video games are art or not.

>HURR DURR DEM ART IS ALWAYS PRETENTIOUS
Shut the fuck up retard

Art is a man made creation that evokes emotion or thought.

You just don't get them.

Cool, but that's pretty vague. Whether I see the Mona Lisa, or when I step in dog shit, a thought is evoked.

They're more like themeparks.

Define winning.
Outside of competitive games, does winning even mean anything in games anymore? I wouldn’t describe finishing a game as winning by today’s standards

to anger leftyniggers like you
xbox is the white man's brand

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>That sounds like it mostly would pertain to competitive natures games.
>Are games that are story centered still prohibited because of the rules you stated?

That's why I said video games can have elements of art in them. Figure-skating can be viewed as having art elements despite being a sport.

Yes, clearly nothing is pretentious ever

There is no passion in creating games.

>Mohamed
Ummmm xbros?

I’ll actually accept that.
Though I think there’s still a lot of gray area in the overall idea of games being art, at least your point is makes sense

Art is so subjective that it doesn't matter whether something is art, but Modern AAA video games are so commercialized that I would never count them as art. It would be as disingenuous as calling modern pop music art.

Ugh, can't believe Xbox would use a neo-nazi slogan.

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They are games, do you consider stuff like chess and tennis art too?

If video games are an art then modern game designers are doing toddler drawings.

Well it has to be man made. But art is vague, it's just the mass populous deems what art is good art.

Microsoft makes them