It's been 12 years. Sonic is shit now because you relentlessly shat on me, then went on to shower Colors in praise...

They lasted 10 minutes at most. playing like a retard and getting angry because you don't use the combos doesn't make the game shit, it makes you a retard

Unleashed is very pretty for what it is, the music is sometimes great, and both the go-fast and beat-em-up concepts are fine. Even the hub world collectathon would be okay if the game didn't control like ass. The go-fast controls are inconsistent and not responsive enough at speed; the beat-em-up controls are acceptable but repetitive; and the werehog platforming is downright incompetently programmed.

X is homing attack. You cannot defend this.

> forces you into non-Sonic gameplay for half of the game
> absolutely devoid of charm, unlike Adventure
> which people also panned for expecting you to play side characters so long, for the record
> instead of Sonic's friends, Sonic spends the entire plot playing off of the shitty hybrid of a proto-minion/rabbid and Navi
> caught in that awkward era where Sega was both still trying to be serious and shifting towards Colors-tier ideas on "plot"
No matter what your feelings are on the Werehog gameplay in a vacuum, it shouldn't have been in a Sonic game just after 06.

>Sonic is shit now because you priased the good game and mocked the bad one
Ok

But that's wrong, you cockgobbler.

>what if we had a game where half the game is boring and repetitive, and takes much longer to traverse through than the half of the game that actually resembles proper Sonic gameplay
>also let's give Sonic an annoying helper character that doesn't add anything, because Omochao was so well received

Either never played the game or got filtered

why are werehogfags so defensive about their shitty gameplay? even adventurefags can admit only 1/3 of the game is decent

Filtered

>not the ghost girl in the Night of the Werehog animation

By what, Werehog is just GoW baby edition. It's boring.

>only 1/3 of the game is decent
projared, plz

are we really gonna start praising unleashed just because colors wasn't le kino and had 2d? you do remember the 20 minute werehog stages, horrifically bad frame drops, changed homing attack placement, medal collecting, unnecessary rpg elements and the awful gimped last-gen ports RIIIIIIGHT?

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I thought Unleashed was decent and didn't even play Colors so nah fuck you.
They've done nothing but rehash the good parts of Unleashed since anyways so I don't even know what you're complaining about.

>forces you into non-Sonic gameplay for half of the game
Adventure and Venture 2 do this for 75% of the game, but everyone still jacks those off to high heaven.

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So......Sonic Bros......What was your reaction when you found out Sonic was going to be in Smash Brawl?

>> also devoid of charm, unlike Adventure
>> which people also panned for expecting you to play side characters so long, for the record
>> instead of Sonic's friends, Sonic spends the entire plot playing off of the shitty hybrid of a proto-minion/rabbid and Navi
Are you actually illiterate or are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>> also devoid of charm, unlike Adventure
You didn't play it. The hub worlds and unique NPC all ooze charm.
I'm not arguing with a know nothing faggot.

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I thought it was neat but I remember it being leaked a couple days beforehand so it wasn't this giant surprise out of nowhere.

Ah yes, pixar humans, the most charming part of Sonic and the part Sonic interacts with the most.

im not gonna pretend unleashed is this great game because a lot of the game is frustrating or tedious as hell. but the high points are so high that it made the experience worth it. was incredibly atmospheric, had a great presentation, some kickass day time levels, it felt like i was playing a game that was made by people who cared. unfortunately the games flaws knock it down to like a 6/10, but if youre a sonic fan you need to play this game. it made me feel like a kid again, how many games can do that?

>you do remember the 20 minute werehog stages
actually they were 30 user!
>horrifically bad frame drops
yeah they were pretty bad, not enough to affect the gameplay though
>changed homing attack placement
this sucked shit but you get used to it
>medal collecting
okay granted i went into the game knowing i had to collect them so i didnt have a bad time with them at all. i feel like you should probably be looking out for them anyway but i dont blame those for hating it because it was a cheap way of padding
>unnecessary rpg elements
fuck offffffff i may be the only person on earth who liked rpg shit in sonic games. love the hub worlds, xp points werent really necessary but rewarded level replays, love all the extra items you can get, etc.
>the awful gimped last-gen ports
yeah nobodys talking about those when they refer to unleashed

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Better than style clashing human models, faggot.

3D Sonic games will never be good again unless they do the equivalent of Sonic Mania for Sonic Adventure 3: give the game to someone outside Sonic team who actually understands why the old game were good, and uses that understanding to deliver a polished game that combines nostalgia with the iterative innovation you would expect in a new game.

When people want a Sonic Adventure 3, I'd prefer it if they ditched the alternate gameplay styles. I love the HUB worlds and the shonen stories but I'd rather they just have amigo characters run through Sonic's levels. Hell just give me a FULL 3D Sonic game and I'll be happy.

whoa lets not go crazy and praise Unleashed now, it was a dud because it didn't star Knuckles & Shadow