DMC4SE

My abusive husband made into a game
>shit enemies outweigh good enemies
>decent bosses but you must do them AGAIN in reverse order LMAO
>most said enemies are designed around nero instead of anyone else
>dante Barely has any weapons
>vergil must trick down in DT
It’s an ok half done game. Damn sight better than Dmc2 for sure but man oh man DMC5 made me move on since vergil is 90% better than his 4SE
iteration.

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They made my favorite character look absolutely retarded.

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Pros
>Expanded Vergil's kit
>Made Trish playable again
>Made Lady playable
Cons
>Fixed none of the problems of the base game
>The new characters have huge overlaps with the original ones and themselves, so they're not all that unique

Depends. You talking about DMC4? or just the SE content?
>DMC4
I'm not a fan. I enjoyed playing as Nero, and Dante is alright too but the stages, enemies, and bosses leave a lot to be desired. Not to say it's all bad but there's more bad than good, especially when you're backtracking through it all as Dante. Certainly doesn't help that over half of what was planned was scrapped thanks to Capcom being FUCKING IDIOTS.
>SE content
Vergil is bad. He was strong in 3:SE but in 4 he was clearly built for LDK mode and even then he steamrolls it let alone standard difficulties which removes the fun for me. Trish is Trash and Lady, although interesting, isn't that much better but is probably the best part about SE sadly. Things aren't helped by bloat that makes it run far, far, worse than DMC4. Either way between 3:SE and 5:SE I will never have a reason to return to DMC4/SE and that makes me quite happy.

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Best Lady design

>thread is about dmc4
>trannies start talking about dmc5 right away

I fucking hate you pieces of shit autists. Get the fuck out of here and go to /vg/

Cant talk about previous dmc games without any of you showing up and autistically screeching about how dmc5 is le.best gaim evah

>shit bosses (except Credo)
>shit level design
>backtracking makes me want to kill myself, even worse than dmc3 at it's lowest
>nero is a shit one-dimensioned character
>dante is just weird in both his gameplay and attitude
>lady and trish are useless bimbos, with an even more useless gameplay
>vergil is ???

Kys DMC4 is a rushed piece of dogshit. You low IQ nigger

My honest opinion of 4 is tied to 5 because why would I play 4 when 5 exists?

It was exciting at the time because everyone thought the franchise was dead, but I'm getting pretty annoyed with the SE model. Why can't we get proper expansions? Dragon's Dogma had an expansion. Fromsoft games get expansions (except Sekiro lol). Imagine if Vergil got his own levels for once.
And then on top of that it of course didn't fix any of the issues with vanilla DMC4, outside of a small handful of QoL like sprint activating faster and proud soul gain being increased.
In terms of characters, Vergil is obviously the most fleshed out, Lady is fun but her lack of mobility or proper DT is annoying, and Tr*sh is just Dante but worse.

Sekiro is much better

Oh yeah I forgot fucking DmC gave Vorgin his own levels, why does mainline not get that? Is Itsuno just in love with the special edition model or is Capcom giving him peanuts for a budget?

>3 now has an official version with style switching
>5 now has an official version with Vergil
>PoC has an expanded playable Lady
Sorry, but DMC4 has no reason to exist anymore.

Best half a game I ever played.

I literally can't play it anymore. I've tried a few times since DMC5 released and I can't. Credo is cool but meh. It's basically just fucking Bleach, Nero is Ichigo, Kyrie is Orihime, cult is dumb as fuck, replaying half the game.

Who cares, Lady is boring to play, even worse than V.

PoC?

Person of Color

I mean, TECHNICALLY, Vergil is an expansion for old gen and PC. 5SE is just a rerelease with that DLC, the other DLC and a couple extra features.

The thing about the Special Edition model is that aside from the name all the SEs had completely different situations. 3SE was difficulty adjusting and content they couldn't put in the game in time. 4SE was years down the line and added a bunch of characters. 5SE was created for fan demand and to capitalize on new consoles. And of course there's DmC:DE which changed a bunch of things about the base game.

A game doesn't need to be the absolute greatest thing ever in order to be worth playing. It still has its own content and mechanics. Maybe people won't spend hundreds of hours playing 4's Bloody Palace anymore since the franchise is no longer dead, but it's still worth playing through it at least once.

youtube.com/watch?v=sbz5FpesfBs

Since when is Berial not an awesome fight?
You plebs are forgetting just how good DMC4 looked and played in 2008. Also, Nero with the exceed system and Dante's style switching were the pinnacle of action game skill ceilings for about ten years.

I like DMC4's atmosphere better than DMC5. The creepy castles and labs are way more interesting than boring modern cities and demon tree with combat rooms.

vergil is overpowered and a lot less interesting than dmc3 in spite of having more moves because instead of having his own nuance he's basically just dante but with a bunch of extra shit - with many of the things in dmc3 that made him feel really distinct being replaced for shit like animations from DmC
lady and trish are boooooooriiiiiing - lady was actually the character I was most excited about as I wanted to play her since dmc3 but she's just charge shot -> the character with barely any moves since they just took a bunch of basara/dante assets and called it a day. trish meanwhile is just shitty dante and there are enemies she has a real hard time fighting as a result
neros scarf outfit is cool. LDK is the best way to play the game, improving obviously shitty parts of the game like how expensive sprint is & how slow gyro blades are is appreciated but it shouldn't have been so obviously crappy in the first place

people who think the pinnacle of DMC are goofy hacked fights where you fight the same boss 5 times or juggle an immobile enemy with 0 health for 5 minutes have poisoned any discussion about DMC. before there was more of a mutual understanding between people doing cool style stuff and people optimizing DMD gameplay but b/c of this game and it's fanbase you're basically considered a second class citizen if you play these games to do anything besides juggle fodder enemies into the air endlessly - with all complaints about the gameplay being brushed off with "yeah but look at this cool combo video"

>some gay retard mod
oh okay retard

>It still has its own content and mechanics
It kinda doesn't though. Aside from Lucifer and the enemies everything in 4 is in other games.

Great game with its own strengths over 3 and 4.

>asked for honest opinion
>redditor screeches like a monkey due to not agreeing
Everytime

I don't think you know what a mod is.

I think it's a good game and like it almost as much as 3. I like how it makes Dante look kinda serious at first then dismantles it later.
Nero is fun. Vergil mode is pretty good, but not as good as DMC3's. I'd say 3 > 5 = 4 > 1 > 2

>Since when is Berial not an awesome fight?
when he was a big piece of shit you jump canceled around his head while smashing the attack button like the worlds deadliest fly as he helplessly swung at the ground because the game was designed under the assumption you were a button mashing 360 user that never played a DMC game before - the same as literally every boss in this game besides credo (an actually good boss) and dante (button reads so blatantly you have to cheese him to win)

Bloody Palace the game.