>Corporate needs you to find the difference between the Jedi and the Sith
>Warrior monks who can sometimes get a bit preachy, but will always fight for freedom and to protect the innocent
>Literally mentally-ill genocidal sadists who want to enslave the galaxy when they aren't too busy backstabbing each other
>They're the same picture
Doesn't drink the Kreia koolaid, Jedi and Sith are not even close to morally equal
Corporate needs you to find the difference between the Jedi and the Sith
Kreia is a bitch-ass nigga.
From my point of view the jedi are evil
Well then you lost The Game
>doing nothing while the galaxy burns isn't morally reprehensible
t. Master Vrook
A lot less reprehensible than the ones doing the burning
They don't do any burning. They're merely subject to the will of the force.
Not by much really, user. If you prop yourselves up as the defenders of the republic and then effectively do nothing, aren't you effectively saying "psyche! we were only pretending to care about the republic! lower the shields! go ahead and ram us in the asshole Darth Aggot!"?
GG EZ
And why do you think the Jedi aren't complicit in the sith's ascendancy?
They sat on their fucking hands and watched it all happen.
The galaxy was only saved from the sith because one of their own rebelled against the naval gazers and took matters into their own hands.
Inaction is just as damning as action in this situation.
she never says or implies the jedi and the sith are the same. she says a lot of stuff about both of them, but never that.
>current incarnation of jedi are too arrogant and convinced of their moral superiority despite obvious failures like refusing to get involved in the mandalorian wars
>current incarnation of sith are short-sighted idiots who squander their powers
>both are over-reliant on the force and ultimately manipulated by it to its own ends, being robbed of their free will and ability to forge their own destiny
they have some similarities but they're not identical
kek
>>current incarnation of sith are short-sighted idiots who squander their powers
You do understand that whitewashing is a more of #BothSides enlightened centrism, right?
This is some Tim Pool level (((moderate progressive who shills for Trump and only attacks the left))) centrism
>will always fight for freedom and to protect the innocent
Tell that to Cathar
Didn't Mace have a fighting style that used the dark side?
>One side commits genocide
>Other side doesn't
>#BothSides
No, this is a stupid fanon. His entire style is that he faces the Dark Side and rejects it so strongly that it mentally fucks the Dark Sider he's fighting. That's why he's so deadly against Sith
Its like the fight between the wicked fake jews of synagogue of satan, demonic servants of satan that support the globalism, corporate oligarchy and faggotry against humble followers of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.
Yes you dummy, by failure to act.
People like you are the reason good Samaritan laws exist.
What game?
>No, this is a stupid fanon
Its almost like you want obi wan kenobi to show up and tell you about his good friend's lightsaber technique...
>when the fig is so new the tree hasn't even been planted yet
kreia doesn't hate the jedi though, she hates the current incarnation of the jedi in the time she lives in. they ignore obvious threats and let countless people die and act as though they're morally superior for doing so. they're utterly convinced they're doing the right thing and refuse to consider any other possibility.
calling them out for being retarded isn't centrism. it's pointing out they're retarded. it's not about good versus evil, it's about stupid versus not stupid. you can be smart good or stupid good, you can be smart evil or stupid evil. kreia wants you (and other people) to be true to your ambitions, regardless of whether they're good or evil. if that means saving the galaxy, then save the galaxy, don't sit in a monestary acting like a smug self-righteous faggot.
>shall we go blindly and face the enormous threat on the outer rim and risk overextending and spreading our force to thin
>or shall we wait and asses the threat and fortify the core worlds that are essential to the survival while the outer rim burns
Its not much of a choice, its choosing between rational decisions thats bad and an emotional decision thats worse.
Without knowing what kind of master strategist Revan would turn out to be against mandalorians.
the jedi are evil because they want to force order out of natural chaos
the sith are just stupid because they give into their basal instincts and get cunty
the true good guys in star wars are the smugglers and crime lords profiting off constant conflict. they don't actively disrupt the flow of the force for their own gain.
You do realize this is a very common tactic among alt-right and neo-nazis, right? They always say both sides are bad, but, curiously, they only spend time attacking one side and completely ignore or downplay the other side.
That's not centrism, that's just being dishonest and hiding your power level
>I have a special technique that makes my followers incredibly powerful warrior monks
>Your Republic has to cater to my special interests and in return I will be your guardian
>Zealots attacking your systems? Hrm we will consider acting
>The council has decided not to guard your interests
>No, we can't teach you our powers
>We are your greatest ally
that's the thing though. the jedi weren't taking option two. they were taking option 3: do nothing and pick up the pieces afterward. they weren't fortifying the core worlds, they were ignoring them. the REPUBLIC was fortifying the core worlds. the jedi was choosing not to get involved entirely.
the republic did the right thing. the republic fought the mandalorians where it was necessary and tried to mount a proper defense. they simply didn't have the resources to properly fight off the mandalorians with the jedi council refusing to aid them.
what you're doing is a common tactic too: oversimplifying a situation with nuance so you can draw parallels to politics.
i already said kreia doesn't hate the jedi in general. in fact, at the climax of the game, if you go dark side (or more specifically if you kill any of the jedi masters), she calls you a failure for doing that. if you leave them all alive and try to reason with them, you're met with far more approval from her.
if you really, really want to draw real world parallels, consider the allied policy of appeasement leading up to world war 2. the allies were the good guys but they were still making a big mistake.
STOP MAKING CHOICES
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>consider the allied policy of appeasement leading up to world war 2
This is a meme, btw. The peace in our time guy, Chamberlain, fully understood that Hitler wasn't going to stop, but he needed time to rearm Britain and that rearmament was crucial because it allowed the UK to destroy the Germany Air Force with their new Spitfires and rader systems that the Germans had no way to counter.
If Chamberlain had gone to war with Germany during that summit, it would have been a complete disaster.
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Yes and that makes her great, because in the end she is just a sad old SALTY woman who feels The Force itself has wronged her and is nothing like trouble. The cosmology of Star Wars and The Force may prove her idea wrong, but she is compelling because you can see WHY she would get her conclusion and without the Meta knowledge about the setting she can come off as Right, but you don't have to think she is.
I take a character like Kreia over the ilk of Rey anyday.
What are you talking about Neo-nazis have been endlessly shitting on trump and civnats for the past 3 years its one of the reasons he lost
maybe. even still, the point i was making was that you can be on the "good" side trying to do the right thing but still be doing things wrong. i'm sure you can think of other situations where that applies.
>>Warrior monks who can sometimes get a bit preachy, but will always fight for freedom and to protect the innocent
You got the Jedi wrong, braindead. Stop trying to make any remarks, you are embarrassing.
he lost because he's an incumbent with a shitty economy, its not more complicated than that.
also, in-universe, the mandalorians weren't ramping up to attack. they were already attacking. and the jedi weren't gearing up to fight back, they were saying it would be unethical to get involved.
no its because he betrayed his base and lost gound with one of the biggest demographics in america that being non-college educated white people. He would have won if he did literally anything to help us rather than letting criminals out of prison and 50billion dollars to blacks
>ng. i'm sure you can think of other situations where that applies.
Right, but it 100% whitewashing if you take the literal worst interpretation of one side and then try to down the objectively worse actions of another so that they are both portrayed as morally equal.
No one will argue the Allies were perfect, but only Neo-Nazis try to equate Allied appeasement or internment of Japanese as somehow just as bad as the Holocaust or the Nazi aggression.
Why are people blaming a bunch of monks for not running off to fight a war with their laser swords?
Hell, Revan didn't beat the Mandalorians because he was a Jedi. He beat the Mandalorians because he was a genius strategist.
The allies were objectively worse than the axis.
>they were saying it would be unethical to get involved
No, they weren't. They literally suspected Sith involvement because of how obvious this bait was, so they were understandly cautious and they were right, because look what happened after Revan went.
i don't think kreia argues that the jedi council and the sith are the same thing though. that was the very first thing i said. she dislikes both the jedi and the sith of her time for different reasons, but i don't think she makes an equivalence between the two, and it's pretty obvious that the sith are the more pertinent threat. the jedi "threat" was basically in poisoning people's minds with non-involvement as a philosophy. but it wasn't out there killing people in cold blood.
if anything i think her attitude toward the jedi is similar to someone who feels betrayed by "their side" politically. of course you're more disgusted with the people you believed were there to do the right thing when they fail to do that.
Accusing your opposition of what you're doing is a common pattern with your kind, fake jew.
Uh, hello? Based department?
i should replay kotor 1, it's been long enough that i can't remember the specifics