Is paying ~$80,000 for a game design degree worth it?

Is paying ~$80,000 for a game design degree worth it?

Keep in mind, that Full Sail grads are pretty much guaranteed a ~70k starting job in the industry due to the connections the school has with big studios.

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Do you want to work in what is the equivalent of a chinese sweat shop for code monkeys?
Indie is the way to go if you have the talent

Full Sail is a scam college

>be super into computers in kid thanks to video games
>figure out emulation, modding etc. nothing too fancy but enough to be smarter than most when it comes to computers
>start learning CS in school at age 14 because I wanna make video games
>keep reading horror stories about how shit it is to work in the vidya industry
>go to an average public uni for CompSci
>get an internship junior year, after that put in bare minimum effort to graduate
>starting salary is $80k in MCOL city
>hardly do any work, wake up at noon every day since I'm working from home
>zero interest in vidya industry
>tfw reading about all the crunch shit they go through
>tfw don't care about any of that and enjoying my infinitely disposable income since I don't spend money on anything that isn't rent, food and vidya
Fuck the video game industry.
Also a CompSci degree is literally free money lmao what the fuck I get paid so much and don't deserve it at all desu, it's stupid

I'm so fucking glad I didn't apply to Full Sail

>not choosing a business degree
You've just described my life with a Finance degree working in Operations at a bank, except replace $80k with $105k

This. A college that advertises itself on public access TV during the dead hours for NEET losers and kids playing hooky since the mid 2000s is probably a good sign that it isn't all that and a bag of Cheetos.

>Finance
lmao imagine working a nerd job like that. I deliver mail on a motor bike and make $150k a year

I honestly don't know how good OSSU is, but I've seen it get recommended and it ranges from being completely free to paying like $50 per course, and that's only if you want graded assignments and certificates. I plan on learning programming this way so I can make shit games.
github.com/ossu/computer-science

99% of game developers have never worked another job in their life. I hear the same "horror" stories from low level wagies in all fields. Management will treat you like shit no matter what work you do if you're low level. It's just the way the corporate world works.

Haha, I make $0 and am going to kill myself

Actually, I work at an investment bank too, probably the most prestigious one you can think of. All the finance kids' starting salaries are what lower than the software engineering kids, by a good amount. A lot of them as interns were also way more competitive and always present themselves well and try to play office politics and tried to appear superior to their peers. Meanwhile the CS interns were way more laid back and able to make a joke at their own expense.
As a full time employee from what I can see the business degree new analysts work way longer hours and have to work harder to prove themselves while the software engineers work less hours and have more job security knowing others aren't out to get them as much. All the business degrees also had to have stellar GPAs to be here, while I graduated with a 2.6.
But I do concede that the power dynamic can change as you climb the ladder. A lot of people tell me I'm underpaid even at $80k and that I should try to move to a startup offering $120k+ but honestly I don't care that much, I like having not much work and my current income is enough for everything I want and more, I'd only need more once I marry my gf and decide to have kids

full sail literally gets attractive recruiters to trap incels

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28 and neet here, probably gonna an hero by 30

Went to a trade school during high school when one of the reps from Full Sail came to visit.
>She gives her whole song and dance
>My teacher asks the rep whether Full Sail’s credit was transferable to other colleges
>The rep says no
>He asks whether their degrees were accepted when transferring to universities
>The rep says no
>Asked if they accepted credits or degrees from one Full Sail University to another
>Rep gives a non-answer
He told the rep to leave and spent the rest of the class warning us about how some of these “colleges” were out for our wallets and nothing else.

i've always heard that full sail was an absolute scam

Sounds like a good teacher

It's become an overcrowded field. It also has no sustainable future for people. You might end up making 70k at first but will be replaced as soon as you become too expensive by the next wave of grads. Most people are out of the industry in 10 years or less one way or another.

Nice

I flunked out of there back in 2009. You'll learn how to code but it's designed to weed out people in the first 3 months (which I somehow made it through). Even if I did finish and got a job the six figure student loan debt wouldn't be worth it.

holy based teach

i had a friend on xbox who was doing shit in college for fiancing, he always seemed like he was on the brink of having a mental break down because of it,after a few years of not hearing from him i found out that he apparently dropped that class and is doing much better in life now

Based teacher. I hope i will be the same.

>Full Sail credits are not acknowledged by any institution as Real College Credits
Yikes.

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Business is the degree retards go for after failing one stem class

Instead of spending 80k, buy a copy of RPG Maker and try to create a game that makes you get a small base of players interested in your work. If you can do that, it is because you have some talent and can start learning to program to make more elaborate games.

HOW THE FUCK DOES ANY EDUCATIONAL ORGANIZATION EXIST WHEN SHIT LIKE THIS HANGS OVER THEIR HEADS

If you want to make games, do it as a hobby. Get a nice and comfy 9 to 5 job as an engineer for something related to the government or a bank, you know a place that won't abuse or overwork you due to the strict regulations they HAVE to follow. You then have the rest of your day to make your games. Don't fall for the AAA developer meme.

can I still work for the WWE after attending here?

based

>currently going to college for finance
>trying to currently land job at bank
>only real work experience is 7 years working for a contractor on roofs, remodels, etc.
What the fuck do I even put on my resume?

My CS degree cost like one 8th of that and I have a job as a SE paying 90k a year before benefits a year out of college.
Stop going for meme degrees and stop going to full retard coastie shithole schools.

They scam their students

This is a TRUE STORY:
My ex broke up with me for a guy the studied music production at Full Sail College. She said I had no future since I was at a community college studying Computer Science. She told me that he, being finished with his degree in music production, had a bigger future ahead of me. Her name is Alison, but we'll call her Charli. She claimed I was abusive because I threw a sandwich at her after she attacked me for. Anyway, this guy that went to Full Sail spent almost 90k on his degree that got him a promising career at some grocery store called Sprouts. That's where you will end up if you go to Full Sail. A cashier. Reason: Because Full Sail only offers you jobs within their investor partnerships, which means that your degree is only worth to the people that signed a contract to that school. Its not a "real degree".

Back to the story. You can get further with a Community College degree in basic programming. I'm surrounded by job opportunities from it, and I literally just do the most basic programming job you can imagine: back-end web dev. Its easier, costs less, and is an actual job. Community colleges also offer you scholarship opportunities if you decide to transfer to a university. Thanks to Community College, I'm paying basically nothing to get my masters in Computer Engineering.

Game design is fucking elective for my major, its fun, its profitable, but you're better off getting a degree in something around Computer Science and just doing the gaming classes as electives. I'm on track to work at Bethesda Austin and I couldn't be happier. Don't go to full sail, you will end up in job that will not pay you enough to pay them back.


-Sincerely
Sandwich man

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That's what happens when you pick a Finance major and not a useful Business degree like Accounting.
So much of Finance is idea based so everyone is competing on who can market themselves the best.
An accounting major literally just passes a test and is guaranteed a job (although a boring one) for life.

>Keep in mind, that Full Sail grads are pretty much guaranteed a ~70k starting job in the industry due to the connections the school has with big studios.
Lmfao that is not the case. It’s not even the case with more legitimate programs like FIEA

>never had a job
>gamedev since i was 16
>day is a melange of shitposting and doing drugs
>maybe do 5 mins of actual gamedev
im so tired of being poor

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My friend works for a game company lives pretty comfortably. But he works in art, not developing the game itself

Get a state job in IT user. It’s essentially upgraded neetbux

i only made games with rpgmaker
i dont actually know how to code

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don't gamedevs make as much money as FAANG dev fags?

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IT isn’t coding. That’s DevOps.

gamedevs make as much money as their game sells for after taxes

>But he works in art
that sounds even worse

>$80,000 for a game design degree
You can become a commercial pilot for less than that, and make more than a game designer.

Just learn to code and use blender and unity from home and make your own games, education is a scam.

Yea I want this, where do I sign up?

>due to the connections the school has with big studios
I have been to many schools where this line is used and it is bullshit.

No lol, gamedev is bottom of the barrel for programming wages and underneath the barrel for working hours.

are u serious

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