As the year comes to a close, lets look back on the biggest flops of the year

As the year comes to a close, lets look back on the biggest flops of the year.

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Third-best Paper Mario which is like winning the Special Olympics.

TLOU2 and hopefully Cyberpunk 2077

Nah. Super Paper Mario and Paper Jam are still better.

Notice how the buzzword associated with people defending this game has died now that nobody gives a fuck about it anymore.
Almost like it was forced by at most a handful of people.

I hope you weren't surprised by it. In a few months/years time they'll try forcing it as "it wasn't as bad as you remember!" Especially when another paper mario game get shit out.

>it wasn't as bad as you remember

It was positively received overall, 5 year old kids will make youtube videos about this in 10 years and looking at it fondly.

Don't really care, won't change the fact it's nothing special. It got its release "celebration" It'll get a nostalgia "celebration" and then no one will care about it. Happens all the time.

And I won't begrudge them, because to them Paper Mario was always a point and click adventure with a Mario shaped cursor and battles that were interesting for a maximum of an hour, in total. I'll just be sad over what we lost.

Origami King is on par with Super, I'd give OK a slight edge if the final boss and the beginning weren't so abysmal

It got absolutely mogged by Ghost of Tsushima which came out the same day.

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i played this after skipping sticker star and paper jam and I can say definitively this game lacked one important thing: SOUL
oh, and the combat was boring and repetitive

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That's right. Not my kind of game but I can see why it was received well and why fans enjoyed it so much. Seemed to capture a lot of tones, moods and imagery fans of the era and style adore. I think that's really important.

Sticker Star 3 I genuinely can't see a reason why anyone could enjoy it.

the combat was the most drawn out, tedious thing ever. Very "Nintendo."

nu-paper mario is a fucking disgrace and anyone who defends these games is a zoomer faggot who needs to be shot

found myself actively avoiding combat at all fucking costs by the end of the first area
if they were going to do something so bad at least reward the player for participating in it (EXP)
but nah take some coins

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I feel like if this game had just conceded and had a traditional RPG battle system, it would have done a lot better. Everything but the battle system was good. But because the battle system was bad, the game turned into a really mediocre adventure game.

desu the writing was probably the best it's been since TTYD/SPM

just slap the old style battle system on top of that and you've got a decent title

> Everything but the battle system was good.
Debatable. It still focuses way too hard on PAPER and the main NPC is still "generic looking toad with a somewhat dry, self-aware, snarky sense of humor".

Olivia was cute

I can say as someone that played both that sadly, this game had more soul than anything. Which is actually pretty sad. The staff (specifically the NoA localization team) clearly care but the IP restrictions on them are suffocating to creativity. It puts them in such a small box in which they can be creative because you know none of the story will matter/Mario will always have a Navi clone that makes a "heroic" sacrifice/you can't really have a super deep story Origami King was legitimately worse in its overarching story than any other PM game etc. It's just a sad state of affairs. I feel like if NoA had their way it would make a good PM game on its own, or even if they licensed it out to a Western company.

Origami King focused less on "DUDE PAPER" than any of the other games, which is weird considering you fought office supplies and it was about origami. It just wasn't as absolutely constant as Sticker Star or especially Color Splash. Both of those games had horrendous "DUDE PAPER" jokes constantly.

Yeah can we talk about the SHIT-TIER bosses in this game
jesus fucking christ
where the hell is my basedboy doo_liss

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They were so poorly explained, I didn't even understand why they were around. At least the Vellumentals made sense.

The fact that the main plot elements can be boiled down to "DUDE PAPER" is exactly why I still consider it bad enough to be worth mentioning. The jokes being toned down, I like, but the DUDE PAPER LMAO bosses are not forgivable.

If the game had EXP, I would've bought it. Simple as.
I don't need to learn that violence is pointless from a Autistic plumber getting literally nothing out of it.

Least they'll be changing the battle system instead of going back to basics with every new installment until Tanaka fucks off hopefully.

It's funny how much good gameplay can totally change a bad game to a decent one.

The entire conflict and everything that happens would have been fixed if the villain could read. It has by far the worst villain in PM.
It's painfully obvious that Tanabe showed up one day after his literal shower thought gameplay idea and forced it to be implemented, but no one thought "Will these battles be fun 15 hours from now?" The entire game's combat system at most should be a gimmick for bosses.

Couldn't agree more. Well that and hope Nintendo stops being retarded and let's edits of their characters be allowed again.

Its an average game. Like its just that. It's OK. Nothing special. The first two games are still the best in the series but Nintendo stubbornly refuse to go back to the series roots. They're the kings of ruining their own IPs or destroying them altogether.

with this whole melee debacle I feel like they're only getting more and more protective of their IPs

Won't happen, unless somehow NoA pulls off a miracle. NoA knows what people want, and knew this game wasn't it.
Protecting themselves from something that could arguably be seen as copyright infringement is different from Nintendo's Japanese HQ autistically screeching when the West likes unique Mario characters too much.

>Paper Jam
you didn't play it
it's so fucking bad, easily the worst M+L game

Avengers, naturally.
But this shallow husk of a game deserves a mention too, yeah.

It hurts when you realize that Nintendo will never take the stick of their ass and give Mario the heart it once had with its environment like they did so many years ago. It's up to something like NLG to bring that love back, and even they're restricted by those dumbfucks.
Everyone in pic related besides Mario, can't exist anymore.
It's funny how almost every fan made version of those guys were so much fucking better. IS are such uncreative hacks
Doopliss has blob feet what the fuck is that shit

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Playing it right now and it's pretty good.

t. 30 mins in
it goes downhill fast

Watt the fuck even is Watt? A baby sun?

The most absurd part of the mandate to me is that you couldn't have a family of any character's species. It means that every character is just going to be a weird clone of every other member of their species. I don't have the pic, but I'm amazed that SJWs don't go after Nintendo for basically removing all female characters from Paper Mario. There used to be a ton, now you can count them in the new games on one hand, because not even Toadette is allowed to be in these because she's a character while Toads are a species (except for Toad, who is a character I guess?) It's dumb.

Imagine being Toad, Red and white Toad.

Even the worst M+L game is better than the last 3 Paper Mario games.

I'm in the 3rd area/world, user. I genuinely think it's pretty good.

damn
lucky you man, at this point I just wish I could enjoy what IS is putting out
I really liked the world design in most cases, shogun studios and the desert were big highlights, but the whole 20ish hours I spent playing the game were ruined by the boring ass combat