That's why I like Japanese games, they're all about escapism, instead of the western SJW political bullcrap they force upon us.
That's why I like Japanese games, they're all about escapism...
Samuel Stewart
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Landon Cruz
Reminder that Delita did nothing wrong, Ramza survived, and Pat is full of shit
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Luis Martin
He’s right
Wyatt Reyes
Japan's politics are just substantially less retarded. Whether you like the system or don't you must agree that compensation instead of punishment is advantageous to certain people unless the penalty is proportional (which would have people sperg out on the top and people on the bottom with literally nothing free to act with impunity)
As I said, Japan's politics is fine it's their theology and philosophy that bites ass. The west does that better.
Eli Flores
>Japan's politics are just substantially less retarded
What part of “the law is biased against the poor” do you think is somehow exclusive to japanese political ideology
Joshua Walker
It's not exclusive to japanese politics. It's typical of japanese media. They're far more measured and less spastic. Where the west would soapbox about eating the rich the jap game would go "this is unfair" and say little more at least authorially at worst instead focusing on the lack of justice than the agression towards the "source" of that injustice.
tl;dr japan is more content to observe an issue in their setting whereas the west is all to keen to turn it into poorly considered allegory.
Jaxon Russell
So what you’re saying is japanese people see a problem and go “that’s bad” and do nothing about it, which is somehow better, lmao
Connor Jackson
Games didn't start getting political until circa 2014 when I started getting politically radicalized on Zig Forums and started carefully scrutinizing media for politics I didn't like.
>So what you’re saying is japanese people see a problem and go “that’s bad” and do nothing about it, which is somehow better, lmao
That's pretty much the only way how I can explain how every piece of Japanese media goes "bullying is bad" while bullying remains a problem in nearly every Japanese school.
Cooper Morgan
Ethan Rivera
Facts can exist free of opinions. Issues can have more than once contributing factor. Things can be complex and some crusades are more likely to spread problems even as they fix one.
It's not like Japan is immune to smooth brain takes. Look at shounen but in general they're more willing to accept nuance and let the settings issues be their own issues instead of having to mirror their real world inspiration. The entire point of a fantasy setting is that it works in different contexts. An issue in a world with magic, while superficially similar to an issue we experience in the real world shouldn't often track 1:1 in both cause and response.
Jaxson Collins
bullying is a problem every, though I don't know how much of Japanese style school bullying is different from others. Could be modern Americans are more pussified nowadays.
Jaxon Martinez
Japanese games:
Wiegraf starts off fighting for the poor against the oppressors, but throws all that out the window when he has the opportunity to seize power, stating he doesn't even care about his dead sister anymore. This is because leftism is, at its core, nothing but greed and envy. They don't want equality, they just want to become the oppressors.
Western games:
HI I'M TRANS AND MY NAME IS SHANIQUA, MY PREFERRED PRONOUNS ARE THEY/THEM, NOW I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A SILLY INCONSEQUENTIAL SIDEQUEST AND YOU'LL NEVER SEE ME AGAIN.
Jack Perez
>haha taxes are the same thing as faggot propaganda, suck it bigots
Thomas Ortiz
JAPANESE GOOD WEST (AMERICA) BAD
there I summed up this shitty thread for you person reading this garbage
Adam Kelly
it's unironically true though
Jeremiah Cook
>because leftism is, at its core, nothing but greed and envy
No it's because the controlled must seek strength and the strong must seek control. It's a genuine personal arc of someone being altered by the actions they've taken and the realisations they've made. A character in a similar circumstance might also double down on their righteousness and become more disruptive and destructive than their opressors due to the difficulty of up-rooting an established system of order.
Takes like that are GOOD. It's better than 'this character represents this ideology that can only exist in a vaccum'
Andrew Rivera
>Games didn't start getting political
>what is Metal Gear
Dylan Evans
>Facts can exist free of opinions
Any provable fact with regards to inequality necessarily supports an opinion. “Fines are only a punishment for the poor” is not a fact that can be left in a vacuum to be “interpreted.” It means something very specific.
Asher Hall
>Facts can exist free of opinions
No, because facts on their own are pointless until interpreted. Data means nothing until a point can be interpreted from it, which is always subject to personal bias. Okay, 1+1=2 and the sky is blue; what's your point?
Nobody shares facts for the sake of sharing facts, they do it because they want to make a certain point, like sharing trivia for the sake of amusement, or trying to create this particular worldview. If you think that interpreting facts is purely apolitical, then someone has successfully managed to make you drink the Kool-Aid.
Carter Diaz
you retards still don't get after all this time. You fuckers are gonna look back at some of these games in the latter half of this decade and realize how these games aged like milk.
Austin Myers
>you can't just acknowledge something happens and have characters respond in ways natural to their characters without making some narrative overture regarding the "truth of the matter" letting people know what to feel
You people are gross.
Jack Fisher
Sorry buster but I’m not terribly interested in having people “draw their own conclusions” about irrefutably unequal systems. I’m afraid there is a right response and a wrong response to the premise that fines are only a punishment if you’re poor. This is not morally grey. The characters can make their own conclusions based on that premise, but I expect that a game made by half sensible human beings will frame one of those conclusions in particular as the best one.
Jaxson Williams
It's a duty of artist to comment on ongoing problems.
Asher Rodriguez
it's the duty of NPCs to repeat the current headlines in every format they have access to
Jackson Richardson
And corporal punishment favor the physically strong, so does prison to some extent.
Nicholas Gutierrez
How was MGS2 a comment on ongoing problems? Yes it had hindsight but that wasn't an ongoing problem then.
Aiden Powell
>How was MGS2 a comment on ongoing problems?
holy fuck lmao
Jeremiah King
Again hindsight but the main problem they were talking about was either far into the decade or a bit outdated by the time it came out.
Landon Powell
In its majestic equality, the law forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal loaves of bread.
Alexander Phillips
I cannot even fathom where to begin dude
Like you realize metal gear, as a franchise, is first and foremost about nuke politics right
And about yknow, militaries
I’m gonna go ahead and ask you what events happening around 2001 may have been part of what MGS2 was talking about by going on about weapons of mass destruction, child soldiers, paramilitary groups, terrorist attacks, etc
Evan Bell
What game is this from? I want to play it
Ian Baker
This is a tired opinion and I'm tired of hearing it. Just because you don't play western games that don't throw in a political agenda doesn't mean they don't exist.
Adrian Nelson
>Western games:
>HI I'M TRANS AND MY NAME IS SHANIQUA, MY PREFERRED PRONOUNS ARE THEY/THEM, NOW I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A SILLY INCONSEQUENTIAL SIDEQUEST AND YOU'LL NEVER SEE ME AGAIN.
Can anyone name literally 1 example of this?
Justin Ortiz
FFT
>Like you realize metal gear, as a franchise, is first and foremost about nuke politics right
Yes, but MGS2 as a game wasn't about that.
>I’m gonna go ahead and ask you what events happening around 2001 may have been part of what MGS2
But it came out to late to intergrate 9/11
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Michael Cook
Japanese games are political too, but they're more subtle about it
Grayson Ward
I get what you're saying but I would say they treat it more with respect more likely.
Aaron Powell
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Aiden Barnes
You realize US wars in the middle east were happening before 9/11 right? Like we didn’t just leave them alone for all of history and then suddenly 9/11 happened
Samuel Allen
Japans a boring country with boring people. It's why they always imitate western politics and characters.
Aaron Stewart
I know but again, they didn't implement the current middle eastern situation. Just Saddam shit which Bush went gung ho over even if it wasn't him.
Asher Murphy
The primary theme of Silent Hill 1 and 3 is women’s bodily autonomy, especially in regards to abortion
Jason Cook
>That's why I like Japanese games, they're all about escapism
Jayden Phillips
>NPC moron repeating the narrative that the inside job by elements of the us government in collaboration with israel was the people it victimized
truly a product of your times
Angel Gonzalez
Pretty much this, combined with the facts that their social temperature isn't as high, and that most references to Japanese politics go over our heads since we're not familiar with them.
Nicholas Martinez
Did you drop out of high school before they could teach basic literary comprehension?
Brandon Myers
you will never be a woman