Dark Souls lore thread. Ask away. I don't know anything about bloodborne

Dark Souls lore thread. Ask away. I don't know anything about bloodborne.

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What's the best boss, from a lore perspective? Doesn't have to be good mechanically

What is Neto?

Gravelord Neto
A Gravelord

I hate how miyazaki is a sadist and puts a swamp level in ever game he makes so he can nut to it later

Do you suppose the giant crow was plotting to eat Frampt?

Artorias of course

Was Havel framed, or was he really planning some kind of coup?

idk, good question. I think my favorite lord soul boss guy is nito. If you consider the spiritual successors to him, I even like the rotten and aldrich from the lore perspective. Rotten doesn't have a lot going for him, but ds2 also added a lot to nito.

the first of the dead, he's like a giant skeleton that wears a shroud of other skeletons. Death is like a family, all are unified by death. We can see in ds2 there are species that serve him like the milfanito and the fenito (agdayne).

No, I don't think so. That's funny though. I see the crow as an extension of velka, and I don't think frampt is particularly afraid of it.

What's the lore reasoning of putting Moonlight Greatsword in every game including non-Souls games? What's the lore reasoning for taking enemies from non-Souls games and putting them in Souls?

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The swamps represent the swampy sludge that blasts out of Miyazaki's ass after a depression-fueled hamburger and whiskey binge.

I played through Demon's Souls, the Dark Souls trilogy and Bloodborne without giving a single shit about the lore and never cared or bothered to know why I was killing those zombies, monsters and giant armored warriors.
Well, I do know what's happening on Demon's thanks to the monumental explaining everything on the most straightforward way with a neat cutscene but that's it.

It's amazing how From Software's effort designing those levels, enemies, encounters, bosses and gameplay mechanics is meaningless to you because you only care about lore, not unlike a fujoshi or a yurifag watching any piece of media. It's also funny (and predictable) how the Soulsborne community gave its seal of approval to Mortal Shell, a mediocre game from a gameplay, design and length standpoint and the only Souls clone almost as bad as Lords of the Fallen, just because it has ambiguous lore.

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Sure, if you're an edgy animefag.

Rank the Gods in terms of power.

Is this including 3? If so, when Anri is "Married" in the darkmoon tomb, what exactly does this do? Yuria needs her champion to have a spouse to usurp the flame and is willing to guide Anri into a collision course to you, have her assassinated, and then have you plunge a ceremonial sword with the crest of the Ringed City on it into his or her chest. Anri's corpse then stays in the tomb for the rest of the game until they are inexplicably present for a few frames in the background of the ending cutscene. Why did we need to do this and what does this even do to Anri? Is she somehow revived by us usurping the flame? Are we only able to usurp the flame because we take... something from her when "marrying"?

why is the compendium so expensive?

Is the world in DS1 and DS2 completely fucked everywhere to the point of civilization collapsing or it's just the playable areas?

moonlight greastword being in from games was a thing before souls.

The lore significance has to do with sorcery and the power of moonlight. The drive for immortality drives seath to madness and to create sorcery, and the old moonlight sorcery from midir indicates that sorcery and indeed moonlight itself existed long before seath (and gwyndolin too probably). Gwyndolin's moonlight is only the moon's reflection of the sun's light (because his father is sunlight, he is a reflection of it etc). I reckon old moonlight (beyond being a king's field reference, it's literally the same shape of sword as the KF mlgs) is meant to be about how the eternal dragons thought about the world beyond the grey nothingness of the aoa. It's the realization that there is something beyond what was already there. A thought (that's what sorcery is).

This obviously has little or nothing to do with lore
That's like suggesting that chocobos and moogles are some kind of interdimensional beings because they appear in so many final fantasy games

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how did seathe fuck gwynevere if his lower half is just crystals

There are areas beyond what is seen that aren't collapsing. You can see civilizations that supposedly survive from game to game. Primarily something like catarina and carim. Carim in fact grew in strength from the span of ds1 to ds3.

meanwhile places like astora broke down at some point, astora is no more by ds3.

I would say that no place is great however, and the people that seek these lands out do so out of desperation because of their curses.

Are the Desert Sorceresses /bestgirls/?

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Ties to havel and the occult are rough, I can't give you a definitive answer. I don't personally like the idea havel himself was involved, but I don't think there's anything concrete regarding it. He clearly didn't like dragons or seath, so maybe/probably.

I don't think havel was framed, I just think that items provided to the player about havel's armor and weapons are usually from havel knights, not havel himself.
FUCK dude I dunno. Gods or lord souls? I don't think the gods below gwyn are particularly amazing save for nameless, ds2 gods are probably a mix of dark gods/powered humans, so I'm going to rank lord souls.

Gwyn (probably undebatable, huge empire and giant soul.) > Witch of Izalith (army and had her own flame sorceries even before the chaos flame fucked her shit up senpai) > Nito > Furtive Pygmy (but furtive pygmy is based don't get it twisted)
>If so, when Anri is "Married" in the darkmoon tomb, what exactly does this do?

You take her dark sigils from her. You go from five to eight. Eight corresponds to the eight thrones of the pygmies in trc, but other than that idk why eight.

In a ceremonial concept sense, the church of londor wants to inherit the order of the world and subvert it. They want you to harness the flame and internalize it. Feed it endless darkness and curses with your sigils. Anri is a hollow just like you, and has been guided for it. Also,true royalty is dictated by being worthy enough to link.

Anri is also of divine blood. She represents the "light" while you are the dark. She is astoran (divine) by blood as her sword indicates, and she even has her napkin over her face that strongly resembles gwynevere's dressing. it's by gwyn's tomb. Not to say she is a descendant of gwynevere, she just represents the other side.

Yes. Yuria and sister friede are close seconds. emerald herald close third. Maneater mildred fourth, nobody else is good enough for me.

I said Gods. Which is murky. Stuff like Velka. Surely there must be some mythology around them

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>You take her dark sigils from her. You go from five to eight
Oh yeah... totally forgot about that lmao. Interesting symbolism with her being the PC's opposite as well. Thanks based lore guy

Seath + gwynevere speculation is only speculation, but I would say seath is more likely to experiment than fuck.

>sister friede
oh shit I forgot all about her

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There is, but measuring power levels is a tad silly when we don't have a lot going for them. Like, what power level could you possibly give flame god flann?

I think the only gods worth talking about really are gwyn's children, and even then gwyndolin was a coward. I think nameless king was really powerful though.

I think nahr alma is more powerful than faraam (I think there's sufficient evidence to suggest faraam lost a war with neighboring gods, which is the ultimate reason I don't think faraam is nameless unless you're okay with nameless losing).

I think velka is very powerful in the political way. Her domain is vast apparently, she covers a lot of shit. I disagree with people like lokey who believe she is the same as caitha. I don't think caitha is a real god, or I should say was originally a real god. I think humans can become gods (and indeed, you can read evlana as a human turned goddess rather than a human mistaken for one. in souls that can be the same thing).

>tad silly
Says the "lore nerd".

So when Namco Bandai said that the Dark Souls series was going to continue regardless of Fromsoft, do they still plan to follow through on that now that it's been 4 years since the last game?

Did they actually say that? God that would be soulless

I'm willing to measure god dick I guess, just gotta be more specific lmao. I said some offhand thoughts about it. All I got.
I bet they will. I think people take souls for granted and don't realize even miyazaki didn't build it to only be a single game. Even if he didn't want to make sequels off it, it was definitely made with the possibility for more in mind.

3 definitely reeks of "please don't make me make another one of these" and if namco made one on their own a LOT of good will from the fans would go away. Especially if it's not from at all. I think souls 4 could survive another from B-team scenario, dark souls 2 isn't that bad, but souls 4 couldn't survive without from imo. It would be a disaster.

Still think they'll do it when they think the time is right.

>lore nerd
>Doesn't even get it that Gwynn and the others don't compare slightly to Velka and other meaningless shit
Fake Human-worshipped gods =/= Royal family

What's with the London pilgrims on both side of the bridge to Lothric? Is Londor the same place as Anor Londo? What's the big plan with turning all the clerics into butterfly dudes?