All of it is his fault, right?

All of it is his fault, right?

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Yes

No it was his demonic reflection

Yes. And also that fucker Seath.

>old man clinging to his vision of the world and fucking up the future for everyone other than his own family
Yes.

>Big titty daughter dead
>Son missing
>Only remaining son is a faggot

Gwynn had a hard life

>Big titty daughter dead
Source? Not on the death, but the big titties.

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He just wanted to save everyone

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His oldest literally ended up living the dream and dying in a way he wanted. Out of the entire Gwyn family he was the only one to find his own purpose in life.

>Only remaining son is a faggot
"A divine ring granted to the Darkmoon Gwyndolin in his youth.

Causes males to perform female actions, and vice-versa.

Gwyndolin was raised like a daughter through the aura of the moon, and was said to behave like a sullen brooding goddess."

gwyn forced him to be a tranny

>muh real darkness has never been tried

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WTF are you talking about. Everything would die no matter what.

user, those are one of the most famous tits in video games. How did you not see them?

Probably to compensate for Filianore's absence.

No it wouldn't. Now that dark exists it was ready to take over when light fades. Before fire arived there was no darkness

>Big titty daughter dead
She just left
There's plenty of evidence that she became Rosaria, and was possibly the queen of Lothric

Imagine if in anime adaption when Agni fights with lightning gay twink, plin plin plon starts playing. It's gonna be kino...

Gwyn may look like a complex character, but really he's just a boomer who refuses to let it go, literally 90% of boomers alive

Based

Worse still, he got manipulated by jews.

He wanted to save his family, purposely screwing over the rest.

Funny how it happens too.
>Son I see you're good with moon magic so off goes the penis

good I'm not the only one seeing the serpent jew connection

Prior to Gwyn humanity was the big dick unga bunga faction. They literally forged their armor and weapon in the Abyss. If Gwyn didn't manipulate them into serving him only to collar them with dark sign they would've taken over the world and ensured a far more interesting future.

>Before fire arived there was no darkness
The dark soul was literally found at the same time as Gwyn's

only lordniggers would die, or maybe even only lose their power

I remember my first attempt, I was fucking ready but then the fucking music started and I saw hollow Gwyn, I felt like shit in less than a second

absolutely

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>There's plenty of evidence that she became Rosaria, and was possibly the queen of Lothric
?

>lighting the fire in DS1 is something that frampt asks you to do while becoming the dark lord is something kaathe will ask from you
>becoming the dark lord is something that causes frampt to reject you as the chosen one
>yet he's still seen bowing to you in the dark lord ending
What the fuck was up with that?

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>There's plenty of evidence that she became Rosaria

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You kids don't know what's best for you.

I assumed that the queen of Lothric is just a descendant of Gwyn's bloodline. Hence why her children were superhuman.

So what? Fire shows up, light and dark are created. Before fire there was no dark.

>be a snake
>play both sides

Without Gwyn's seal of fire giving them the good shit, beings with just dark souls are unthinking eldritch horrors whose only strength appears to be immortality
Without any trace of fire, the world would just be Nosgoth but with retarded monsters that can barely do anything other than fight instead of vampire intrigue

>All of it is his fault, right?
What did he do wrong?
Without him, the world would be even worse.
You don't seriously believe the age of dark is better?

They are literally the jews playing both sides. None of this matters. They have their far reaching keikaku and you will dance by their music regardless of your choices.

Age of Dark
>gods all dead or powerless
>dragons all dead from last age of dark
>humanity will rule

>b-but the dark corrupts humans into monstrosities
All made up by Globohomo, Gwyndolin

Except we know that primordial humans ACTUALLY had their own culture. It was crude and brutish, but they weren't retarded monsters.

Why weren't there any options for facial hair in DaS except for that laughable "beard" where you just paint your character's jaw with colors

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Yeah cause clearly the world literally falling apart at the seams in 3 is a signal that everything with the fire-linking is hunky-dory

No, Seath's. Seath betrayed his kin who devour darkness and the abyss. One of Gwyn's last acts we know of thanks to DS3 was to have Midir, last of the ancient dragons devour the dark/abyss.

Basically we needed dragons from day one but Seath fucked over everyone because he got called a bitch for having no legs.

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If it weren't for Gwyn's rebellion and Seath's betrayal, the Trees and dragons would still be around.

Rosaria's whole deal is risky physical transfiguration, and between her soul giving Gwynevere miracles, and everything Leonhard says, she's pretty obviously a corrupted Gwynevere
The Queen of Lothric stuff is a bit shakier, but there's the blessing items and the dragon children being a strong commonality

>the Trees and dragons would still be around.
And why would you want that?

nice try Londor shill

They were essentially abyss orcs at best, which is basically the same thing

>Once, the Lord of Light banished Dark, and all that stemmed from humanity.

>Izolith isn't invaded and chaos is kept under control
>Life and Death souls don't care about light vs dark
>all of himanity would have been better off without the curse
>Nameless wouldn't be exiled
>Gwyndolin wouldn't be force fed HRT from young age
>Filianor wouldn't be sold to some creepy menlrts
>Seath would have been executed for being a bitch

Orcs are fucking cool and being primordial hulks eating dragons on breakfast is far preferable than being Gwyn's bitches.

>Prior to gwynn humanity was the unga bunga big shits around
No it wasnt, gwynn vanquished the dragons and began his empire, before that humans were no different than the gods.
The way it happened was
>Lord souls found
>Dark soul found
>Gwynn kills dragons
>Gwynn starts his empire
>Gwynn is afraid of humans
>Gwynn manipulates humans into thinking their dark nature is bad and fire is good
>Dark sign happens
>Gwynn exhiles humans by giving them their own empire aka ringed city
>Some humans still live among the gods to work slave tier jobs
>Gwynn realizes fire is dying
>Gwynn kills himself to prolong that
>Undead becomes a thing
>Undeads purpose is said to be to prolong the age of fire aka another lie
>Not all undead fall for that
>Hollowing becomes a thing
>Hollowing and undeath starts being treated like a plague
>Hollows and undead began being exilled forever
>Dark souls 1 happens

Abyss wasn't a thing in the Age of Anciants. Not to mention Abyss is just the Dark angry at Gwyn for fucking up the world.

>gwynn vanquished the dragons
Play the fucking Ringed City
Humanity was the force behind the dragon extermination. Gwyn took the fame for all of it.

>seal of fire giving them the good shit
yeah such as curse of hollowing, that makes you unable to die, slowly eating away at your soul, until you are literally empty husk. Also eldritch monsters such as Manus or oolacile residents or pus of man are byproduct of the supressed humanity - direct result of gwyns fuckery