SOMA

It's literal brain damage. The scan of simon that was taken was when he was suffering from a brain injury and couldn't think striaght. I think it's completely understandable that he couldn't grasp the idea of copy and paste. I just don't understand why it HAS to be copy and paste and not cut and paste. Doing that avoids having 2 Simon's alive at the same time so he wouldn't have the revelation in the first place, and there would be no suffering when he gets inevitably left behind.

Okay pseud.

This is a bullshit excuse. He had it, but it doesn't transfer to his robot body in any way.
Simon is just intentionally written like a retard so there could be a moment of him freaking out later.

There’s a part of the game where you can choose to kill old simon or let him live, it’s part of the ethical dilemma of the thought experiment

Wrong. There is nothing that implied his reasoning skills were altered in any way. And there is no way his clone had "brain damage" because that's not how it works. He was specifically written as a retard for the narrative.

Pseudo philosophical speculations? Elaborate

These two posts are EVERY FUCKING SOMA THREAD in a goddamn nutshell

Even though they don't really matter to the plot, there were some interesting choices to make in the game.
Did you euthanize Simon-2?
Did you kill the WAU?
The last human on earth?
Did you delete your brain scan and/or any of the others still saved on the computer?

>He had it, but it doesn't transfer to his robot body in any way.

What do you mean? If it's copying the layout of your neurons then any kind of physical damage to your brain would be copied over as well. The only way the entire concept of the game makes sense is if that's true because Dr. Munshi's machine was designed to make a copy and simulate thousand of drug treatments to see which one would be most effective in treating the brain injury.

Fuck Somon
Embrace the WAU for eternal transcendence

Given time the WAU would have solved the existential dilemma and adapted to everything

How do you think cutting and pasting works?
You copy, paste, and delete the old one. You can't transfer consciousness. Consciousness is an abstract concept.

>I just don't understand why it HAS to be copy and paste and not cut and paste.
it's the same thing, baka.
"cut and paste" makes a copy and deletes the original.
a possible explanation is that his copy was made from a damaged brain and with a prototype machine, resulting in a flawed one.

I made it a point to not kill anyone because I believe that living in a hell is better than nothing.

Thats all fair and dandy but looking at it makes me go
Aaaaaaaaaaah im gooooooing insaaaaaaane

All the choices were basically thought experiments. Many games have these, but for some reason they felt more impactful than in other games.
Except that it's pure speculation. There wasn't a single hint of him having impaired thinking or anything at all. He was just dying from the bleeding overtime.
It's a decent game but I'm not going to excuse poor writing because of it.

Simon was as smart as everyone posting here, fact

>I just don't understand why it HAS to be copy and paste and not cut and paste.
Because it would still be copy and paste you'd just delete the original data as you copy it, it wouldnt be the same consciousness

This post was typed by the hands of a man who is severely overweight and wearing a fedora.

>which have resulted in these pseudo-philosophical speculations
How ironic

I agree, though you could perhaps chalk it up to legal reason in-universe. I could see it being seen as horribly unethical and this threatening to the whole project via the government intervening and shutting it down.

>Given time the WAU would have solved the existential dilemma and adapted to everything
I guess it's cool if you end up being one of the last mockingbirds it makes that can actually move and isn't totally insane.
But it sucks if you get turned into some monster that's stuck in place for the rest of eternity.
I still wonder why the WAU gave up on it's own "ARK" concept. It was actually working on the idea before Catherine really thought about it. But then the humans discovered it and the WAU seems to have abandoned the idea.

>I just don't understand why it HAS to be copy and paste and not cut and paste
Holy fuck, brainlet, it's because that's how data transfer works. When you use cut instead of copy it does the same thing but just deletes the original. It's still a copy because you can't just "move" data like you would move a physical object.
The only way for them to ACTUALLY transfer Simon would be take the hard drive or whatever his memory is stored in and physically attach it to the probe/Arc.

Reread his post slower

wasn't the wau gonna run out of juice in like 200 days or something?

I think the only worthwhile philosophical question here is if you can consider a clone of yourself to be you. Everything up to the end of shared memory is the same but everything after is a divergent experience so do these divergent experiences create a different individuality? Or can you consider them to be what you but in a different circumstance, so in the same circumstance you would act and feel the same? Perhaps immediately after the cloning it's basically the same psyche but soon the divergent experiences would pile up and the clone would develop differently from you so at what point does the clone become entirely unrecognizable from the original?

user Simon is here

Retards, he states he already knows that’s what copying and pasting means, he’s asking why they don’t just automatically kill the first simon body to begin with, or with ANY conciousness transplant.

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i don't remember that but even then it's smart enough to find an alternative energy source

That’s not even just a “possible explanation,” that’s literally what Dr. Munshi says.

>But it sucks if you get turned into some monster that's stuck in place for the rest of eternity.
i hope the WAU is nice enough to give them something to do

Nothing you do in this entire game matters. Save for the Sarah Lindwall at Pathos 2 who is guarding the arc, humanity has gone extinct prior to you even waking up from you little 100 year slumber. It doesn't fucking matter what you do to all these brain scans and freaks, the pie is already on the floor. You're not a human, and neither are these AIs on the ark. It's just too late. The final shot of the satellite drifting through space with ravaged Earth in the background really brought this feeling home for me.

He's Canadian and therefore kinda retarded.

>he’s asking why they don’t just automatically kill the first simon body to begin
They did the first time you do it retard, its the second time you do it where they dont kill it fast enough and you hear it still talking

Simon restarts the reactor/power plant thingy so it should be good.
I wonder why the WAU made simon. Could it have known that Catherine would contact him? And tell him to restart the power? What if he never contacted catherine? Would the WAU try and get him to turn the power back on? I guess the WAU doesn't necessarily do things for any reason but why would it throw some old legacy brainscan in that body?

Damn I bet cyber Cath was tight af. Probably a virgin too.
>tfw you'll never pound some autism puss in space

The WAU was still testing how to revive humans without making them into fucked up monsters it's just so happens it chose Simon