There isn’t single logical reason to join the Empire in the Skyrim Civil War. Change my mind

Being a kid is when you think the Empire is right
Being an adult is when you realize the Stormcloaks were right all along
Actually growing up is realizing that the questline is too boring to play through again so you just mod all the characters to be titcows, play for ten minutes, and uninstall because this game is fucking boring.

lmao, these snowniggers can barely run a sucessfull rebellion, let alone stand against Thalmor and the Aldmeri dominion on their own.

I would play to actually see it, just for the laughs.

>Want to fight for the Glory of Rome
>The Roman faction is a bunch of boot licking toads who take Elven cock up the ass

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Joining the Empire is better than joining the Stormcloaks, though not by much. Negotiating a peace treaty and leaving the mortals to their own affairs while you assemble a powerbase among the dov is the thinking man's choice

I'd join the Empire because I hate snow niggers and Thoraboos.

Good goy

You don't side with the bigot AND get to avoid the inevitable war when the empire strikes back full force.

This is more Bethesda's fault more than anything, The beginning was dogshit for trying to explain the imperials ideals at that point in lore and just made them out to be assholes

Ulfric already asks about alliances, the point of the rebellion isn't to fuck Cyrodiil it's about Nords regaining control of their own homeland again. The less provinces constrained by the concordant the better. And yes if Skyrim secedes the Empire is done. Imperials can't run an Empire without the Nords and losing Skyrim is effectively also losing High Rock. I don't see how a High Rock/Skyrim/Hammerfell alliance would prove worse than the Empire.

Skyrim would be a much better game if the civil war was the main plot and more fleshed out instead of the gay chosen one """""dragon""""" shit

From what i remember, no. The appeal of Empire (historically) is that the living standards/ civilization was higher and more appealing to the rural barbarians.
But because the brilliant writers mashed up 4 different time periods, the nord lands were just as sophisticated, had magic, had castles, had luxuries etc
Literal trash game

He was an "asset" in the way that his rebellion was both weakening the Empire and helping to weaken worship of Talos/Tiber Septim. If you kill Ulfric and meet him in Sovergaurd he talks about how his rebellion meant nothing and that he was an idiot

You want to tell me that the military force that brought the Thalmor to Skyrim is being used bt the Thalmor? No fucking way

The appeal of the empire was Tiber being an ultra chad and conquering all. Technically it was Skyrim that was the most developed aside from the Evlen lands and Tiber himself changed history so that Cyrodiil wasn't a shithole

Hammerfell has nothing to gain from an alliance with Stormcloak Skyrim and High Rock won't trust someone who ditches the Empire.

From what i remember, no. The appeal of Empire (historically) is that the living standards/ civilization was higher and more appealing to the rural barbarians.
But because the brilliant writers mashed up 4 different time periods, the nord lands were just as sophisticated, had magic, had castles, had luxuries etc
Literal trash game

They only do because they are not strong enough to run them over.
The game makes it very clear that the empire would start race warring the elves the second they felt like they could win it.

>nothing to gain
Except an alliance with one of the greatest military powers in Tamriel's history? Against reputed Mer killers? What the fuck are you on about? Hammerfell got a better treaty than the Empire did but that doesn't mean the resistance has stopped. Hammerfell + Skyrim would be an incredibly strong alliance from just a sheer fighting standpoint.

High Rock doesn't seem to really care about the overall condition of the Empire, there's nothing to suggest historically or in Skyrim that they're fiercely loyal.

Doesnt one of the documents in that altmer mansion state that ulfric has been recruited as their agent?

>Stormclucks win, Empire cut in half Altmer Dominion can just march into Cyrodiil and High Rock being cut off can't do shit to help them
>Imperials win and the Imperial rump state keeps limping on, still a shadow of its former self and still resented by large swathes of the population
regardless of who wins the Tamrielic races of Man are fucked
and this is a great thing!

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>Thalmor Dossier: Ulfric Stormcloak

Status: Asset (uncooperative), Dormant, Emissary Level Approval

Description: Jarl of Windhelm, leader of Stormcloak rebellion, Imperial Legion veteran

Background: Ulfric first came to our attention during the First War Against the Empire, when he was taken as a prisoner of war during the campaign for the White-Gold Tower. Under interrogation, we learned of his potential value (son of the Jarl of Windhelm) and he was assigned as an asset to the interrogator, who is now First Emissary Elenwen. He was made to believe information obtained during his interrogation was crucial in the capture of the Imperial City (the city had in fact fallen before he had broken), and then allowed to escape. After the war, contact was established and he has proven his worth as an asset.The so-called Markarth Incident was particularly valuable from the point of view of our strategic goals in Skyrim, although it resulted in Ulfric becoming generally uncooperative to direct contact.

Operational Notes: Direct contact remains a possibility (under extreme circumstances), but in general the asset should be considered dormant. As long as the civil war proceeds in its current indecisive fashion, we should remain hands-off. The incident at Helgen is an example where an exception had to be made - obviously Ulfric's death would have dramatically increased the chance of an Imperial victory and thus harmed our overall position in Skyrim. (NOTE: The coincidental intervention of the dragon at Helgen is still under scrutiny. The obvious conclusion is that whoever is behind the dragons also has an interest in the continuation of the war, but we should not assume therefore that their goals align with our own.) A Stormcloak victory is also to be avoided, however, so even indirect aid to the Stormcloaks must be carefully managed.

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there's no reason to even play skyrim

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He genuinely hates the elves but is too stupid to realize that he is being played by them.

no, it states that he and his rebellion are an asset against the empire. The Thalmor are using the unrest caused by Ulfric to muscle into the empire and control it from the inside while also enforcing the ban on talos worship.
The reason they are doing this is because the empire is both gathering it's strength and lazily enforcing the ban, which is actually a ploy by the Thalmor to weaken Talos. In Sovergaurd, Ulfric directly states how the rebellion meant nothing as the Thalmor where the only ones to gain from it and in the end of the imperial campaign Tulius directly states that a new war is coming

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Imagine playing Skyrim without an alternate start mod