Is this the end of the live service meme?

Is this the end of the live service meme?

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so will the japs keep sucking Western dick, or what? Feels like Square and Capcom are run by Westaboos now

is Destiny the only successful live service series? The rest seem to have flopped hard

Nope. Square Enix is just killing its western wing, which has proved parasitic for too long.

How can you spend 100m on such a shit game that's what Rockstar spends on GTA and RDR

No they will just try again with a different name

Licensing and poor management.

no
because 1) western culture has infected japan and 2) japanese companies want to expand their consumer base

Destiny was the first of the group, so when Anthem came out no one adopted it because there was already Destiny.

Both Destiny 1 and 2 had long strings of years where the games just completely shit the bed and were dead as fuck. It also still blows my mind that not a single one of these other live service clones copied and fixed ANYTHING that Destiny did during its course, INCLUDING Destiny 2. This genre is cursed as fuck.

It was pretty funny, they finally get a full game for Destiny 1 only to release a game that had as much content as vanilla Destiny 1.

>Anything Marvel
>It's shit
woooow

Seems like they have no choice, sadly.
>Switch too weak to bother with optimizat- I mean major projects
>Xbox has no foothold in Japan
>most Jap devs think PC development is insanely difficult and torturous
Meanwhile, Playstation is the only family of platforms that has a consistent foothold in quantity and spread. So Japan has to start appeasing Sony (who are western oriented now), even if they have to eat shit to do so.

Destiny itself is barely successful.

Blame their US advisors at their other branches and localizers. Even Nagoshi is pandering to the West because he wants that gaijin money even though he doesn't fucking know a lick of English or has any idea what his foreign fans want, he just leaves it to the localizers to appeal to normalfags. Big jap companies will sterilize their games for the Western market while smaller jap games get released.

>most Jap devs think PC development is insanely difficult and torturous
You have no idea what you're talking about when we are mostly getting day 1 PC releases from many Jap games these days. Your mind is stuck in early 2010s

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>we are mostly getting day 1 PC releases from many Jap games these days
Not the ones I care about.

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>It flopped
Back to Deus Ex, dev-piggies!

>Avengers, one of the biggest brand names didn't make a profit
>Fallout 76 did

Who is laughing now?

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hopefully squeenix will publish actual games now.

I-I kneel Todd-sama.

Besides The Master Chief Collection has there ever been a game that made a good recovery after a bad launch?

There was The Division too.
Do Free to play games count? Because there's Warframe, and if it counts then there's also, the recent Genshin Impact.

What is this fucking retard taking about? What was there to stop after the beta. Modern betas are just multiplayer stress tests and the have was pretty much done and the marketing and distribution pipeline is set up so they're was nothing to stop.

No Man's Sky?

>MCC
>good recovery
LMAO
M
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Japan has been Westernized since the 1860s, and even more since immediately after occupation. They're technically a syncretized Western nation by now but won't be acknowledged as by the the other nations due to the culture they've still inherited from China and other nations.

No Mans Sky
Fallout 76
Dragons Dogma

Its the end of marvel shit
And boy am I happy

MCC's launch was abysmal and it took until the PC release for it to perform even remotely well, and it's STILL dogshit on both platforms. It took near a god damned year for them to get fucking crossplay.

Final Fantasy 14

>It took near a god damned year for them to get fucking crossplay.
It's always been there retard.